let's wind this down
jim said:
1) If I had submitted this book instead to DP there would have been a much larger number of punc errors introduced as "required" by the DP process.
what? the d.p. process requires the introduction of errors?
2) We would all still be waiting for this book, because I prior submitted two books to DP after a considerable amount of work on my part and they have still to see the light of day. Someone with a practical knowledge of queuing theory needs to go over these issues with DP.
you might want to discuss queuing theory in the d.p. forums. i suppose they would get a lot of good out of that discussion.
3) I know perfectly well that errors remain unseen, which is why I would like an input file format that easily allows another motivated volunteer to pick up where I left off when my children start complaining that they are unfed and unclothed and "reality calls"
i suppose i've already told you that z.m.l. does just that. i even mounted your very book, so that you could see it. so i don't suppose it'd do any good to repeat it again now.
rather than listening to Bowerbird insult my efforts
i pointed out that your .txt version was missing the italics. if you consider that to be an "insult", your skin is too thin...
and insult my integrity simply because I do not support his favored hack markup schemes
no, you failed to support the project gutenberg standard, which calls for italics to be marked in the .txt format...
Presumably I followed the instructions on the PG website
no, you most certainly failed to follow those instructions...
http://www.gutenberg.org/wiki/Gutenberg:Volunteers'_FAQ#V.94._What_sh ould_I_do_with_italics.3F
you will see that it says:
Underscores are now the effective standard for italics in PG texts.
-bowerbird
what? the d.p. process requires the introduction of errors?
Yes, in the encoding of m-dash, ellipses, etc.
no, you most certainly failed to follow those instructions...
http://www.gutenberg.org/wiki/Gutenberg:Volunteers'_FAQ#V.94._What_should_I_ do_with_italics.3F First of all, again, if this is important to PG then why do they not properly index it to the PG site's search engine? Secondly, you refuse to read the immediately preceding section FAQ#V.93 which makes it clear that different volunteers have different priorities about what "plain text" means and how they will be willing to support it and will be using different automatic conversion tools and that some of the volunteers (read: me) will be paying no weight to the desire of other volunteers to make tools to do "automatic prettyprinting" from the "plain text" whereas other volunteers (yourself) are willing to insert "ugliness" into the plain text (their words not mine) in order to better support prettyprinters such as you are proposing. Finally, you and others at PG are forgetting to heed the closing words given there: Getting a text on-line is the important thing; which choices you [meaning me] make in doing so is a matter of detail. The choices *I* make as a volunteer are to put my time and effort into doing ONE markup as well as I can namely HTML, and as little time and effort as possible on TXT files -- because for all the arguments raised here I think TXT is a loser and a no-win situation for the volunteer transcriber - no matter HOW one makes the unhappy tradeoffs *required* by TXT someone will end up unhappy and start "beefing" at you. And the reason that PG is not willing to provide an automatic tool to reduce HTML to TXT is because they know that then THEY not the volunteer transcribers will be the unhappy recipients of these kinds of diatribes.
Amazon is just starting a "Paypal" type service, advertising that people can use it to make donations to non-profits. So, how about signing PG up as such a non-profit? It might be interesting to see what happens! https://payments.amazon.com/sdui/sdui/business?sn=paynow/donation
I can't speak to the specifics, but I believe it already is. There's a Paypal link on the left side of PG's home page. Al ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jim Adcock" <jimad@msn.com> To: "'Project Gutenberg Volunteer Discussion'" <gutvol-d@lists.pglaf.org> Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2009 9:17 AM Subject: [gutvol-d] Sign up our Favorite Non-profit with Amazon Payments?
Amazon is just starting a "Paypal" type service, advertising that people can use it to make donations to non-profits. So, how about signing PG up as such a non-profit? It might be interesting to see what happens!
https://payments.amazon.com/sdui/sdui/business?sn=paynow/donation
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This is different -- this is Amazon introducing a competitor to PayPal. So if PG were to sign up, then PG would show up in Amazon as one of the charities there -- which would be amusing and appropriate, I think.
I can't speak to the specifics, but I believe it already is. There's a Paypal link on the left side of PG's home page.
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