the hacker said:

You wrongly asserted that I voted to "leave the trailing edge behind". I said no such thing. Users make their own choice to learn or not to learn.

the trailing edge _is_ largely composed of people who -- as you put it -- "refuse to learn, to adapt, and to grow". (ironically, some of them actually want to read books!) further, telling them you don't care if they "stagnate and stay in their own nice warm puddle" is leaving them behind. you can try to fancy it up with a spin, but that's what it is. and the fact of the matter is that a whole lot of people are _stuck_ with machines that simply will not run a browser that is "standards-compatible", because they don't believe -- rightly or wrongly -- that they can afford a newer one, perhaps because this month they're trying to decide whether they want to spend their last dollars keeping warm or eating. there are people right here on this listserve who've told you that they don't control the browser that their machine runs, probably because they are using a computer in their library that billy g. installed there precisely to extend his monopoly. or maybe, once again ironically, it was a computer that was put into a school when microsoft fulfilled the terms of the court judgment, thereby (amazingly) extending the monopoly. or maybe, even more likely, they're in a school that hasn't had any budget to buy new computers since the ones they got in '94. there's a whole big world out there, with lots of people in it... myself, i'm running a mac g3, circa 1998, with os8.1. can you tell me a standards-compliant browser to use? -bowerbird