In a message dated 10/18/2004 9:14:03 PM Mountain Standard Time, Bowerbird@aol.com writes: but if you think they _are_ "obnoxious", anne, then why do you read them? The same reason I read all the other posts. I need to know what's going on. This statement from you is rather ingenuous, don't you think, when you are deliberately being obnoxious. If goody-goody-goody-I-have-the-solution-to- your-problem-but-I-won't-share-it-with-you- because-I-don't-like-you isn't being deliberately obnoxious, I don't know what is. Lead, follow, or get out of the way. Anne