re: [gutvol-d] Re: unluckily for us (gutvol-d Digest, Vol 13, Issue 30)

aaron said:
The next time someone asks difficult questions which I don't wish to or can't answer, I'll simply find something which that person has done that I don't agree with, and refuse to talk to them on the basis of moral superiority.
i wasn't claiming any "moral superiority". i just think that to force the father of e-books to undergo "moderation" on an e-book listserve is too galling to let pass by without a reaction... where was noring back in 1971, when michael was typing in the declaration of independence?
"Most people" being code for Bowerbird?
actually, i don't mind the so-called "flamewars" a bit. in case you haven't noticed. in fact, some people have accused me of being the _cause_ of them, haven't they? so if you want to continue them, it's quite alright by me. i buy the fire-retardant foam they use at the airports and get a cheap rate because i buy it by the tanker-truckload, so these little dances around the campfire are fun for me. and aaron, if you really think jon has asked me some "difficult questions" that "i don't wish to" or even "can't" answer, you should step right up and ask them again. because if you ask them to me, i _will_ answer them... and i assure you i can answer the questions jon asked, and that they are actually quite simplistic, not difficult, and furthermore, that i would be positively _delighted_ to talk at great length about z.m.l. here on this listserve. (but, like i said, i think most people on this listserve -- and by that, i mean most people on this listserve -- wish these bowerbird/noring threads would go poof. but again, if you disagree, let me know, and i'll post.) i don't think it'd match the density of the x.m.l. threads, because z.m.l. dispenses with unnecessary complexity, but i could certainly give my best effort. and i _am_ quite capable of going on and on, all by my lonesome, as you also must have noticed by now. so, by all means, feel free to pull my string and i will post and post and post. you might also want to know, though, that i will shortly start to upload demo programs for your amusement and edification -- it's pudding time, kids! -- so if you would rather deal in reality (for a change) instead of all this speculative, high-falutin' vapor-ware noise, you might want to wait-and-see for a day-or-two... -bowerbird

Morasch@aol.com wrote: Who may be this new guy who walks like a bowerbird and quacks like a bowerbird?
where was noring back in 1971, when michael was typing in the declaration of independence?
Where was "Morasch" ?
i don't think it'd match the density of the x.m.l. threads, because z.m.l. dispenses with unnecessary complexity,
It dispenses with everything else too, like, it dispenses with a first implementation after 2,5 years of announcements.
you might also want to know, though, that i will shortly start to upload demo programs for your amusement
I know. You already said that in February 2003:
-- for immediate release --
date: 14 february 2003 dateline: los angeles, california contact: bowerbird intelligentleman bowerbird@aol.com 310.980.9202
bowerbird intelligentleman announces an open-source project geared toward creating an o.e.b. "presentation system", i.e., a cross-platform reader-program that will allow users to read o.e.b files.
[...]
bowerbird further indicated that he is fully confident that the effort would bear fruit quickly, since he has previously programmed a wide variety of electronic-book applications.
... released a vast array of fruitless announcements. -- Marcello Perathoner webmaster@gutenberg.org

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 At 10:17 PM 8/25/2005, you wrote:
i wasn't claiming any "moral superiority".
i just think that to force the father of e-books to undergo "moderation" on an e-book listserve is too galling to let pass by without a reaction...
Could have fooled me.
where was noring back in 1971, when michael was typing in the declaration of independence?
Awe, I see. So in order to be able to criticize anything, you must be the founder? <snip>
and aaron, if you really think jon has asked me some "difficult questions" that "i don't wish to" or even "can't" answer, you should step right up and ask them again.
I'd rather not play the Bowerbird game. Kannons and Katapults is much more enjoyable thanks. You have the questions. You will either answer them or you won't. Should you choose the latter, it certainly won't have been the first time.
because if you ask them to me, i _will_ answer them...
That's ok. I'll let you get back to your work. Careful, your pudding is burning. Of course that's only to be expected when you cook it for 2+ years. Sincerely Aaron Cannon - -- E-mail: cannona@fireantproductions.com Skype: cannona MSN Messenger: cannona@hotmail.com (Do not send E-mail to the hotmail address.) -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (MingW32) - GPGrelay v0.959 Comment: Key available from all major key servers. iD8DBQFDD3tXI7J99hVZuJcRAvRoAKDxhVMmbYfERT6CG6WjT+C3ZEGjMQCcD/sx CB60WUOhJvJ0VQCjhSdXJes= =Wt87 -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
participants (3)
-
Aaron Cannon
-
Marcello Perathoner
-
Morasch@aol.com