
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Hello, I'm new to the Gutenberg project and I think it's awesome, so much information, literature, on-line, for free. The only thing I don't like is the format, plain text doesn't seem very good for storing books. Then some books are in HTML, that's even worst. I personally prefeer DocBook[1] for storing books. For those of you that doesn't know what DocBook is: it is an xml-based format designed exclusively for storing books where no information about how the book will be seen in a graphical screen is stored but information about what things are. It has tags for separating chapters, appendices, prefaces, parts, books (in sets of books), etc. This is not just a complain. I'd like to know if you'd be intrested in adopting DocBook, at least as one of the possible formats (being that DocBooks can be turned easily into HTML, PDF and Plain text [2], I would recomend DocBook as the main format); if so, I'm willing to donate some of my time to the cause in researching and developing a way to offer DocBooks (specially, how the current books can be turned into DocBook). If you'd like to know more about this, I already have some ideas but I didn't want to write a kilometer long email, just tell me and I'll elaborate more. Thank you. - -- Pupeno: pupeno@pupeno.com - http://www.pupeno.com Reading Science Fiction ? http://sfreaders.com.ar [1] http://www.docbook.org [2] Take a look to Science Fiction Reader's library: http://sfreaders.com.ar/library , all the files except the DocBooks are automatically created. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFB3OPpfW48a9PWGkURAmajAJ4wlsRAIR+bN5hnv8jZiB/pS1pbgwCfYElo v0dlFn9z+fjGXenXOWffI90= =4sRX -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

People should feel free to repost Project Gutenberg eBooks in any and all formats they wish. This was actually written into the PG header for ages, all the way back to EBCDIC v ASCII, etc. Michael On Thu, 6 Jan 2005, Pupeno wrote:
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Hello,
I'm new to the Gutenberg project and I think it's awesome, so much information, literature, on-line, for free.
The only thing I don't like is the format, plain text doesn't seem very good for storing books. Then some books are in HTML, that's even worst. I personally prefeer DocBook[1] for storing books. For those of you that doesn't know what DocBook is: it is an xml-based format designed exclusively for storing books where no information about how the book will be seen in a graphical screen is stored but information about what things are. It has tags for separating chapters, appendices, prefaces, parts, books (in sets of books), etc.
This is not just a complain. I'd like to know if you'd be intrested in adopting DocBook, at least as one of the possible formats (being that DocBooks can be turned easily into HTML, PDF and Plain text [2], I would recomend DocBook as the main format); if so, I'm willing to donate some of my time to the cause in researching and developing a way to offer DocBooks (specially, how the current books can be turned into DocBook). If you'd like to know more about this, I already have some ideas but I didn't want to write a kilometer long email, just tell me and I'll elaborate more.
Thank you.
- -- Pupeno: pupeno@pupeno.com - http://www.pupeno.com Reading Science Fiction ? http://sfreaders.com.ar
[1] http://www.docbook.org [2] Take a look to Science Fiction Reader's library: http://sfreaders.com.ar/library , all the files except the DocBooks are automatically created. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.6 (GNU/Linux)
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People should feel free to repost Project Gutenberg eBooks in any and all formats they wish.
Does that include formats which require specialized readers, such as Microsoft Word, or mobile formats, such as Plucker? David A. Desrosiers desrod@gnu-designs.com http://gnu-designs.com

On Thu, 6 Jan 2005, David A. Desrosiers wrote:
People should feel free to repost Project Gutenberg eBooks in any and all formats they wish.
Does that include formats which require specialized readers, such as Microsoft Word, or mobile formats, such as Plucker?
Any format. . .there are PG eBooks out there in .lit, Plucker, and many other formats. . .no problem. Michael

David Desrosiers wrote:
someone else wrote (please keep attributions -- people are important):
People should feel free to repost Project Gutenberg eBooks in any and all formats they wish.
Does that include formats which require specialized readers, such as Microsoft Word, or mobile formats, such as Plucker?
Maybe it is time for PG to encourage (or require) that anything submitted should be in some kind of open standards format, not a proprietary format? Open standards formats include (from the top of my head): plain text (e.g., ASCII, UTF-8, UTF-16) marked up text using an open standard Schema/DTD (XML, SGML) TeX/LaTeX (I'm assuming they are open standards of some sort?) PDF/A (when ISO finalizes that spec, maybe later this year) Open Office Plucker etc. Formats which do not reach the threshold of "openness" include: Microsoft Word (and RTF which I think is controlled by MS) PDF (other than the upcoming PDF/A) LIT Mobipocket eReader/Palm/etc. Of course, following Michael's philosophy, the most preferred and durable formats are those which are based on text, which include plain (regularized) text, and XML documents. Even if PG decides not to require this (which I think they should to make a bold statement, and which does not really affect people's ability to submit works), PG should strongly encourage what is submitted to be based on open standards. Jon Noring
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