-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 At 07:12 PM 8/26/2005, you wrote:

no. again, your problems with inference manifest.

the point is that mr. noring should be _embarassed_ to subject michael hart to moderation on an e-book listserve.

Ok. I am sure we can all use our imaginations for this one and make your interpretation fit.

michael hart pioneered e-books. he should be allowed to speak, to speak freely, and to speak as much as he wants.

that's _my_ opinion anyway. and i feel strongly enough about it that i don't care to speak to jon here, thank you.

i am not telling you that _you_ can't speak to him here, or that _he_ can't speak here. i'm just saying that i don't care to speak to him, so i will be ignoring any questions that he asks in his posts. but again, if _you_ want the answers to any of his questions, just ask me yourself.

Again, I am curious, but I will not ask you. I'm not interested in playing the Bowerbird Game. If you do not wish to answer serious questions about your project, why should I or anyone else care. It's like if you have two people X and Y, and person x designs Z. X: "You should really use Z. I designed it and it will solve all of the problems that you have." Y: "Oh really X? If I feed A and B to Z, will I get output C?" x: "I'm sorry I can't answer that question because you called me X and not Mr. X." Y: "Yeah, but what about D and E and F? How does project Z handle those?" X: "hmm hmm hmm lalala not listening; not listening." Y: Fine, I'll use project W instead. It's been around longer, has better documentation, and more extensive testing." X: "You're just trying to make me look bad! Project W is stupid and everyone knows it. You are nothing but a vocal minority. I am the only one who knows what everyone else wants." It's not a perfect analogy, but pretty dang close.

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Awe yes. Please provide me with a link so I can download these revolutionary applications.

well, i've given it numerous times already, but i'm happy to give it to you again, aaron.

join the zml_talk listserve at yahoogroups, by sending an e-mail to zml_talk-subscribe@yahoogroups.com and you will find the zml-viewer in the "files" section.

That's not a link. A link generally, but not always begins with http://.... Do you keep it locked up under the files section to control it's distribution? Doesn't exactly sound like a distribution model that Project Gutenberg will be likely to embrace. Since you've worked on so many ebook related apps in the past, it doesn't seem like it would be much of a challenge for you to find somewhere to host the files.

banana-cream will be available for download next week. or, if you'd like to see it sooner, just request it backchannel.

No thanks. I did however take a look at the give program. It could use some redesign as far as the pull down menus are concerned. I've never seen so many in my life. Also, I can tell you for sure that it is not very accessible for a blind user. By not very accessible, I mean that I would never read a book in it, although I could read a page if I had to. It's too bad really. You've got some half-decent ideas here. However, I can promise you they will never be embraced by anyone if you don't radically alter your social conduct.

if you have any more questions, save them for next week. as i've said, it's rude to flood the listserve on the weekend.

Oh that's classic stuff! That's right Bowerbird, we wouldn't want to flood the listserve. Could this be simply another means of avoiding difficult questions? Sincerely Aaron Cannon - -- E-mail: cannona@fireantproductions.com Skype: cannona MSN Messenger: cannona@hotmail.com (Do not send E-mail to the hotmail address.) -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (MingW32) - GPGrelay v0.959 Comment: Key available from all major key servers. iD8DBQFDELuQI7J99hVZuJcRAvrxAKCeV0w/19oL0c8uHAXqp7B/KcoxNgCffF86 yneUAn5plrhQWFe762xvKWc= =uLAi -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----