
Note: Not trying to be a smart@ss.
Why do we need the bulwark specifically in an English-speaking country?
Josh
A) Because without one, the entire Commonwealth is going to fall to the life+70 empire. B) Because the sooner we get started on a Canadian life+50 project, the more harm we can demonstrate to policy-makers and potential allies in the broader community, when the full-court press for life+70 is brought down.
2.Because Canada has NOT made it's copyright laws more restrictive over and over and over.
The wimps who make our copyright policy are under EXTREME pressure to extend the term, and, contrary to what you write, MH, have made some incredibly stupid and restrictive policy decisions in respect of other CR matters, other than term, in the past little while.
4. Even more specifically to host Gone With The Wind, after the lawyers' onslaught about it recently.
And also, if we can hold off till January 1 2007, the A.A. Milne corpus.
5. Project Gutenberg of Canada also should encourage more French eBooks, as well as just in English.
Absolument! There's already a surprisingly robust PD movement in Quebec, and many of the projects I've created on PGDP have been in French, with more to come. The source scans from other sites (canadiana.org, BNQ, etc.) also provide ample French-language content to work from.
6. The more Project Gutenbergs the better. . . .
So when do we -- whoever WE is -- get PG-Canada, under life+50 rules, up and running?

--- "Wallace J.McLean" <ag737@freenet.carleton.ca> wrote:
So when do we -- whoever WE is -- get PG-Canada, under life+50 rules, up and running?
Through DPEU I've already scanned and processed over 30 works which are public domain in life+70 (and hence life+50) countries, but not in the USA. Currently I have nowhere in the PG universe to publish them except PG-Australia, and I don't regard that as a viable long-term option -- at least, until I'm told otherwise. Even if PG Australia is happy to take my books, at the moment it's the only outlet for life+X texts, and we've seen with the Gone With The Wind fiasco the problems that can cause. We need a centralised PGUS-style storage system for life+X books that can be easily mirrored in other life+X countries, and that should preferably be based in the country with the most relaxed laws -- Canada. -- Jon Ingram __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - Easier than ever with enhanced search. Learn more. http://info.mail.yahoo.com/mail_250

On Thu, Jan 06, 2005 at 09:55:52AM -0800, Jonathan Ingram wrote:
--- "Wallace J.McLean" <ag737@freenet.carleton.ca> wrote:
So when do we -- whoever WE is -- get PG-Canada, under life+50 rules, up and running?
Through DPEU I've already scanned and processed over 30 works which are public domain in life+70 (and hence life+50) countries, but not in the USA. Currently I have nowhere in the PG universe to publish them except PG-Australia, and I don't regard that as a viable long-term option -- at least, until I'm told otherwise. Even if PG Australia is happy to take my books, at the moment it's the only outlet for life+X texts, and we've seen with the Gone With The Wind fiasco the problems that can cause. We need a centralised PGUS-style storage system for life+X books that can be easily mirrored in other life+X countries, and that should preferably be based in the country with the most relaxed laws -- Canada.
-- Jon Ingram
Jon, I think the answer might be PG-EU. Have you talked with Zoran or Branco or any of the other folks involved? If they're not ready yet, I can talk with my buds at xs4all and maybe work on getting a server there. This is life+70, not life+50. There's a pg-eu mailing list I can put you in touch with, if you'd like. Canada is the only life+50 country left I can think of that's "in the works," and they don't have a server yet. If you have a set of documents, maybe it will help to move things along. The pgcanada list is on http://lists.pglaf.org -- Greg

--- Greg Newby <gbnewby@pglaf.org> wrote:
Jon, I think the answer might be PG-EU. Have you talked with Zoran or Branco or any of the other folks involved? If they're not ready yet, I can talk with my buds at xs4all and maybe work on getting a server there. This is life+70, not life+50. There's a pg-eu mailing list I can put you in touch with, if you'd like.
Canada is the only life+50 country left I can think of that's "in the works," and they don't have a server yet. If you have a set of documents, maybe it will help to move things along. The pgcanada list is on http://lists.pglaf.org
I'd love to know more about PG-EU, so please feel free to forward information about the mailing list to me. We get occasional progress reports on PGEU through posts on the DPEU forum, but I've not seen anything recently. I'm looking forward to it starting up soon... Even when it does start, though, the last part of my message still remains to be looked at. We need to make sure that all these life+X projects share their material, in such a way that people can download the whole collection just as easily as they can download the PG-US material. It's going to be harder than PG-US to manage, because the life+X countries (ignoring Australia) have a living public domain rather than the freeze-dried public domain of the USA, but it's something we'll have to sort out eventually. -- Jon Ingram __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The all-new My Yahoo! - Get yours free! http://my.yahoo.com

On Thu, Jan 06, 2005 at 12:36:59PM -0800, Jonathan Ingram wrote:
--- Greg Newby <gbnewby@pglaf.org> wrote:
Jon, I think the answer might be PG-EU. Have you talked with Zoran or Branco or any of the other folks involved? If they're not ready yet, I can talk with my buds at xs4all and maybe work on getting a server there. This is life+70, not life+50. There's a pg-eu mailing list I can put you in touch with, if you'd like.
Canada is the only life+50 country left I can think of that's "in the works," and they don't have a server yet. If you have a set of documents, maybe it will help to move things along. The pgcanada list is on http://lists.pglaf.org
I'd love to know more about PG-EU, so please feel free to forward information about the mailing list to me. We get occasional progress reports on PGEU through posts on the DPEU forum, but I've not seen anything recently. I'm looking forward to it starting up soon...
Send PG-EU mailing list submissions to pg-eu@vrijschrift.org To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://mailman.vrijschrift.nl/listinfo/pg-eu or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to pg-eu-request@vrijschrift.org You can reach the person managing the list at pg-eu-owner@vrijschrift.org -- Greg

On Thu, Jan 06, 2005 at 09:55:52AM -0800, Jonathan Ingram wrote:
--- "Wallace J.McLean" <ag737@freenet.carleton.ca> wrote:
So when do we -- whoever WE is -- get PG-Canada, under life+50 rules, up and running?
Through DPEU I've already scanned and processed over 30 works which are
Do we have any contacts with good relations with Iran? ----- Original Message ----- From: Greg Newby <gbnewby@pglaf.org> To: Project Gutenberg Volunteer Discussion <gutvol-d@lists.pglaf.org> Sent: Thursday, January 06, 2005 2:38 PM Subject: Re: [gutvol-d] PG-50/70? public
domain in life+70 (and hence life+50) countries, but not in the USA. Currently I have nowhere in the PG universe to publish them except PG-Australia, and I don't regard that as a viable long-term option -- at least, until I'm told otherwise. Even if PG Australia is happy to take my books, at the moment it's the only outlet for life+X texts, and we've seen with the Gone With The Wind fiasco the problems that can cause. We need a centralised PGUS-style storage system for life+X books that can be easily mirrored in other life+X countries, and that should preferably be based in the country with the most relaxed laws -- Canada.
-- Jon Ingram
Jon, I think the answer might be PG-EU. Have you talked with Zoran or Branco or any of the other folks involved? If they're not ready yet, I can talk with my buds at xs4all and maybe work on getting a server there. This is life+70, not life+50. There's a pg-eu mailing list I can put you in touch with, if you'd like.
Canada is the only life+50 country left I can think of that's "in the works," and they don't have a server yet. If you have a set of documents, maybe it will help to move things along. The pgcanada list is on http://lists.pglaf.org
-- Greg
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