I do not do windoze programming. You are essentially saying that a non programmer can work for PG. :-( Did you really mean that?

You have agreed with me above that gutcheck is the standard which must be passed to get. I am just trying to find a version of that standard which will run on my machine, with the text

Well, I'll try to be nice even though you are being very confrontational... No one but you ever said any of the above. 1 - GutCheck is *not* required. Jim, who is probably the end-all on the subject since he wrote the thing, flat out said it is not required. 2 - GuiGuts and GutCheck are *not* the same thing. GuiGuts is a text editor written in PERL. GutCheck is a text checker written in C. You can run GutCheck from GuiGuts (among many, many other things). 3 - Asking for GuiGuts support here is a waste of time. The developer of GuiGuts isn't here, he is on the DP forums. Which you've flat out refused to go to. Fine, just don't expect help for a Dell laptop when you call HP tech support, either. 4 - No one said you had to work/create tools for PG. But if you want a tool for something that doesn't currently exist, you either create it yourself or do without (or wait until someone else needs it and decides to do the work you don't want to do). Personally, I've done all three over the years. 5 - *AND MOST IMPORTANT!* GutCheck is not a test that must be passed. It is better thought of as a checker that will flag things that are wrong more often than right. You should run it, because it *will* help you find mistakes that exist in your text. You, as an intelligent, thinking human being, must check each item and verify whether it is correct. Sometimes it is right. Sometimes it is wrong. If the system was 100% infalliable, we wouldn't need humans anywhere in the process. Josh