Re: !@! Re: Re: larger-format kindle
michael said:
but somehow misinterpreted what the point is about taking out the PG trademark which is totally unnecessary unless HE is now commercial.
i might charge a fee for my reader-program, just to demonstrate that it has value to people, but it won't be a very substantial price if i do... and i'd probably offer a free counterpart too, to reap the reward that would come from that. my main point would be to push the envelope on the functionality a viewer-app should give, and to demonstrate benefits of keep-it-simple. and very few of the iphone e-book viewer-apps have desktop counterparts, at least at present, so that's another missing-link that i'd provide... but the major capability i see missing at this point -- in terms of the project gutenberg e-texts -- is an ability to download en masse with one click. lots of copies keeps stuff safe, plus it also guards against corporations restoring artificial scarcity... and yeah, all of the books will also be "in the clear", regularized in regard to their zen markup language, on my website, as yet another version in cyberspace. most of the other jokers doing this put the text in a database, whereas my books are totally exposed, with an easy-to-grok u.r.l. file-naming convention, so other programmers can grab all of them at will... i'll probably echo them on my s3 (amazon!) account. the main reason i eliminated the p.g. boilerplate is because it's so ugly, and it just gets in the way. -bowerbird p.s. if i do charge a fee for my iphone apps, i'll set aside a portion of the proceeds, not for p.g. per se, but for health insurance for you, michael. i think you deserve that for the role you've played. ************** Remember Mom this Mother's Day! Find a florist near you now. (http://yellowpages.aol.com/search?query=florist&ncid=emlcntusyelp0000000...)
Not to stir up an old pot but for those who are not use to bowerbird please realize that these are wild fantasies of his and you'll never see such an application materalize. So now worry about the PG trademark or anything else he is spewing. Heck, I'm still waiting for his version of DP that he was going to build that was SOOOO much better. Joseph R. Gruber joseph.gruber@gmail.com http://www.josephgruber.com On Sat, May 9, 2009 at 1:50 AM, <Bowerbird@aol.com> wrote:
michael said:
but somehow misinterpreted what the point is about taking out the PG trademark which is totally unnecessary unless HE is now commercial.
i might charge a fee for my reader-program, just to demonstrate that it has value to people, but it won't be a very substantial price if i do... and i'd probably offer a free counterpart too, to reap the reward that would come from that.
my main point would be to push the envelope on the functionality a viewer-app should give, and to demonstrate benefits of keep-it-simple.
and very few of the iphone e-book viewer-apps have desktop counterparts, at least at present, so that's another missing-link that i'd provide...
but the major capability i see missing at this point -- in terms of the project gutenberg e-texts -- is an ability to download en masse with one click. lots of copies keeps stuff safe, plus it also guards against corporations restoring artificial scarcity...
and yeah, all of the books will also be "in the clear", regularized in regard to their zen markup language, on my website, as yet another version in cyberspace.
most of the other jokers doing this put the text in a database, whereas my books are totally exposed, with an easy-to-grok u.r.l. file-naming convention, so other programmers can grab all of them at will... i'll probably echo them on my s3 (amazon!) account.
the main reason i eliminated the p.g. boilerplate is because it's so ugly, and it just gets in the way.
-bowerbird
p.s. if i do charge a fee for my iphone apps, i'll set aside a portion of the proceeds, not for p.g. per se, but for health insurance for you, michael. i think you deserve that for the role you've played.
************** Remember Mom this Mother's Day! Find a florist near you now. ( http://yellowpages.aol.com/search?query=florist&ncid=emlcntusyelp00000006)
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Yes, you ARE trying "to stir up an old pot" and I would appreciate it if you stop. Thanks!!! Michael S. Hart Founder Project Gutenberg Inventor of ebooks Recommended Books: Dandelion Wine, by Ray Bradbury: For The Right Brain Diamond Age, by Neal Stephenson: To Understand The Internet The Phantom Tollbooth, by Norton Juster: Lesson of Life. . . On Sat, 9 May 2009, Joseph R. Gruber wrote:
Not to stir up an old pot but for those who are not use to bowerbird please realize that these are wild fantasies of his and you'll never see such an application materalize. So now worry about the PG trademark or anything else he is spewing. Heck, I'm still waiting for his version of DP that he was going to build that was SOOOO much better. Joseph R. Gruber joseph.gruber@gmail.com http://www.josephgruber.com
On Sat, May 9, 2009 at 1:50 AM, <Bowerbird@aol.com> wrote:
michael said:
but somehow misinterpreted what the point is about taking out the PG trademark which is totally unnecessary unless HE is now commercial.
i might charge a fee for my reader-program, just to demonstrate that it has value to people, but it won't be a very substantial price if i do... and i'd probably offer a free counterpart too, to reap the reward that would come from that.
my main point would be to push the envelope on the functionality a viewer-app should give, and to demonstrate benefits of keep-it-simple.
and very few of the iphone e-book viewer-apps have desktop counterparts, at least at present, so that's another missing-link that i'd provide...
but the major capability i see missing at this point -- in terms of the project gutenberg e-texts -- is an ability to download en masse with one click. lots of copies keeps stuff safe, plus it also guards against corporations restoring artificial scarcity...
and yeah, all of the books will also be "in the clear", regularized in regard to their zen markup language, on my website, as yet another version in cyberspace.
most of the other jokers doing this put the text in a database, whereas my books are totally exposed, with an easy-to-grok u.r.l. file-naming convention, so other programmers can grab all of them at will... i'll probably echo them on my s3 (amazon!) account.
the main reason i eliminated the p.g. boilerplate is because it's so ugly, and it just gets in the way.
-bowerbird
p.s. if i do charge a fee for my iphone apps, i'll set aside a portion of the proceeds, not for p.g. per se, but for health insurance for you, michael. i think you deserve that for the role you've played.
************** Remember Mom this Mother's Day! Find a florist near you now. ( http://yellowpages.aol.com/search?query=florist&ncid=emlcntusyelp00000006)
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Hey when the pot (kettle) is black. Well you know what they say. ;) Joseph R. Gruber joseph.gruber@gmail.com http://www.josephgruber.com On Sat, May 9, 2009 at 11:15 PM, Michael S. Hart <hart@pglaf.org> wrote:
Yes, you ARE trying "to stir up an old pot" and I would appreciate it if you stop.
Thanks!!!
Michael S. Hart Founder Project Gutenberg Inventor of ebooks
Recommended Books:
Dandelion Wine, by Ray Bradbury: For The Right Brain Diamond Age, by Neal Stephenson: To Understand The Internet The Phantom Tollbooth, by Norton Juster: Lesson of Life. . .
On Sat, 9 May 2009, Joseph R. Gruber wrote:
Not to stir up an old pot but for those who are not use to bowerbird please realize that these are wild fantasies of his and you'll never see such an application materalize. So now worry about the PG trademark or anything else he is spewing. Heck, I'm still waiting for his version of DP that he was going to build that was SOOOO much better. Joseph R. Gruber joseph.gruber@gmail.com http://www.josephgruber.com
On Sat, May 9, 2009 at 1:50 AM, <Bowerbird@aol.com> wrote:
michael said:
but somehow misinterpreted what the point is about taking out the PG trademark which is totally unnecessary unless HE is now commercial.
i might charge a fee for my reader-program, just to demonstrate that it has value to people, but it won't be a very substantial price if i do... and i'd probably offer a free counterpart too, to reap the reward that would come from that.
my main point would be to push the envelope on the functionality a viewer-app should give, and to demonstrate benefits of keep-it-simple.
and very few of the iphone e-book viewer-apps have desktop counterparts, at least at present, so that's another missing-link that i'd provide...
but the major capability i see missing at this point -- in terms of the project gutenberg e-texts -- is an ability to download en masse with one click. lots of copies keeps stuff safe, plus it also guards against corporations restoring artificial scarcity...
and yeah, all of the books will also be "in the clear", regularized in regard to their zen markup language, on my website, as yet another version in cyberspace.
most of the other jokers doing this put the text in a database, whereas my books are totally exposed, with an easy-to-grok u.r.l. file-naming convention, so other programmers can grab all of them at will... i'll probably echo them on my s3 (amazon!) account.
the main reason i eliminated the p.g. boilerplate is because it's so ugly, and it just gets in the way.
-bowerbird
p.s. if i do charge a fee for my iphone apps, i'll set aside a portion of the proceeds, not for p.g. per se, but for health insurance for you, michael. i think you deserve that for the role you've played.
************** Remember Mom this Mother's Day! Find a florist near you now. (
http://yellowpages.aol.com/search?query=florist&ncid=emlcntusyelp00000006)
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On Sat, 9 May 2009, Joseph R. Gruber wrote:
Hey when the pot (kettle) is black. Well you know what they say. ;)
And you think this is going to muddy the waters in the eyes of those reading you here? Do you ever stop to think how silly your comments are going to look in the context of history.
Joseph R. Gruber joseph.gruber@gmail.com http://www.josephgruber.com
On Sat, May 9, 2009 at 11:15 PM, Michael S. Hart <hart@pglaf.org> wrote:
Yes, you ARE trying "to stir up an old pot" and I would appreciate it if you stop.
Thanks!!!
Michael S. Hart Founder Project Gutenberg Inventor of ebooks
Recommended Books:
Dandelion Wine, by Ray Bradbury: For The Right Brain Diamond Age, by Neal Stephenson: To Understand The Internet The Phantom Tollbooth, by Norton Juster: Lesson of Life. . .
On Sat, 9 May 2009, Joseph R. Gruber wrote:
Not to stir up an old pot but for those who are not use to bowerbird please realize that these are wild fantasies of his and you'll never see such an application materalize. So now worry about the PG trademark or anything else he is spewing. Heck, I'm still waiting for his version of DP that he was going to build that was SOOOO much better. Joseph R. Gruber joseph.gruber@gmail.com http://www.josephgruber.com
On Sat, May 9, 2009 at 1:50 AM, <Bowerbird@aol.com> wrote:
michael said:
but somehow misinterpreted what the point is about taking out the PG trademark which is totally unnecessary unless HE is now commercial.
i might charge a fee for my reader-program, just to demonstrate that it has value to people, but it won't be a very substantial price if i do... and i'd probably offer a free counterpart too, to reap the reward that would come from that.
my main point would be to push the envelope on the functionality a viewer-app should give, and to demonstrate benefits of keep-it-simple.
and very few of the iphone e-book viewer-apps have desktop counterparts, at least at present, so that's another missing-link that i'd provide...
but the major capability i see missing at this point -- in terms of the project gutenberg e-texts -- is an ability to download en masse with one click. lots of copies keeps stuff safe, plus it also guards against corporations restoring artificial scarcity...
and yeah, all of the books will also be "in the clear", regularized in regard to their zen markup language, on my website, as yet another version in cyberspace.
most of the other jokers doing this put the text in a database, whereas my books are totally exposed, with an easy-to-grok u.r.l. file-naming convention, so other programmers can grab all of them at will... i'll probably echo them on my s3 (amazon!) account.
the main reason i eliminated the p.g. boilerplate is because it's so ugly, and it just gets in the way.
-bowerbird
p.s. if i do charge a fee for my iphone apps, i'll set aside a portion of the proceeds, not for p.g. per se, but for health insurance for you, michael. i think you deserve that for the role you've played.
************** Remember Mom this Mother's Day! Find a florist near you now. (
http://yellowpages.aol.com/search?query=florist&ncid=emlcntusyelp00000006)
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