Re: [gutvol-d] don't fight human nature

mjit raindancerstahl said:
Correction: none look as good *to Passey* as /Passey/ "look right.
i'm guessing that's what lee meant... but i don't know for sure, because i didn't read the post, nor am i gonna. moreover, it's neither here nor there, as when i made a reference to "looks right", both don and i were using the phrase to mean that _"it_resembles_the_pagescan"._ so it has nothing to do with a "preference". thus, although there might be some room to wiggle on whether the "resemblance" is close enough to _be_ "close enough" or not, the issue is more objective than subjective... so no, i wouldn't expect that there would be lots of variance in whether it "looked right". *** so either lee was _confused_, or else he was trying to confuse _you_. i used to _wonder_ which of these two things it was, with lee, because this same question always came up. it helps to know that lee is a lawyer. and it is in the mentality of _many_ lawyers, and then further reinforced by their training, that they don't care if something is pertinent, or relevant, to the topic that's being discussed. no, what they care about is saying _something_ in a way that will make you _agree_ with them. doesn't matter if it makes sense, or is germane. just matters whether it will be "convincing"... it's all about swaying the jury. doesn't matter if it's true, or just confuses you, as long as it works as a "counter", they'll use it. this is one main reason real people hate lawyers, and why truth-seekers hold lawyers in contempt. because lawyers hold _truth_ in contempt. so, was i ever able to answer the question about whether lee was confusing people _on_purpose,_ or whether he himself is the one who's confused? nope, not really. i was leaning toward the answer that he himself doesn't know which it is, and doesn't even care. so i decided that i too didn't care which it was... either way, it's a waste of time to talk with him, if you're trying to get to the bottom of a matter. which is why lee is now in my kill-filter. in case you were wondering... ;+) -bowerbird

On Sat, October 27, 2012 6:39 pm, Bowerbird@aol.com wrote:
it helps to know that lee is a lawyer.
Actually, Lee is a software engineer with over 25 years of experience. At one point in his career he worked for almost 9 years at Novell, during its heyday, writing software for web servers and other web services. He has contributed code to the Netscape/Sun/Oracle web server, the Apache web server, the Tomcat servlet engine, and the HTML Tidy project. He was also invited by the IDPF to participate as an invited expert in the development of the original ePub container format. A few years after graduating law school, and being admitted to the state bars of California and Idaho, Lee abandoned the practice of law when he realized that lawyers focused almost exclusively on winning, and almost never on getting to the truth; a young, idealistic lawyer has no place in this system. Lee is no longer licensed to practice law in any jurisdiction (bar associations take a dim view of people who refuse to pay their licensing fees). However, Lee's legal training has enabled him to carefully analyze complex systems, and to recognize and discard irrelevancies, sophistries and fallacies. It enables him to recognize false assertions about legal issues such as contract and copyright law. It also gave him a skin as thick as a rhinoceros, making him virtually immune to ad hominem arguments (sorry Marcello). Hopefully, this sets the record straight.
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