nope. that didn't work either. so it looks like it really is a.o.l. (it's not just convenient to blame them; it's usually the correct attribution to make.) :+) i'll see if i can dig up any information on this. i'll also try some experiments to see if any of those give the header you want whenever i post some actual messages. but the a.o.l. approach is to not give us idiots any rope with which to hang ourselves, so i might be out of luck in regard to providing any solution... on the positive side, it sure makes it easy to filter out my posts, don't you think? ;+) -bowerbird