Since there are already quite a few in the archive ... I'd say that someone already did. ie Title: L'île mystérieuse Author: Jules Verne Release Date: December 7, 2004 [EBook #14287] Language: French Character set encoding: ISO-8859-1 *** START OF THIS PROJECT GUTENBERG EBOOK L'ÎLE MYSTÉRIEUSE *** Produced by Ebooks libres et gratuits at http://www.ebooksgratuits.com Also: Why should someone else do this for you? if this was something you were interested in, why not check with them yourself? Why do the "masters" have to check it for you? JHutch ----- Original Message ----- From: "N Wolcott" <nwolcott@dsdial.net> To: "'Project Gutenberg Volunteer Discussion'" <gutvol-d@lists.pglaf.org> Subject: [gutvol-d] ebooksgratuit Date: Wed, 16 Nov 2005 16:44:01 -0500
Can the masters at DP and PG investigate whether books at ebooksgratuit may be harvested?? I know that arrangements have been made with gallica and Canadiana so that all of their product is automatically "pre cleared". Ebooksgratuit has etexts of almost all of Jules Verne books in French from original PD cources, but they do not show the title page in their texts as they have been ocr'ed. Many of the books are obscure and they must have verified them before posting. They are already in DOC format and easy to transfer.
any suggestions? Norm Wolcott nwolcott2@post.harvard.edu
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Since there are already quite a few in the archive ... I'd say that someone already did.
ie
Title: L'île mystérieuse
Author: Jules Verne
Release Date: December 7, 2004 [EBook #14287]
Language: French
Character set encoding: ISO-8859-1
*** START OF THIS PROJECT GUTENBERG EBOOK L'ÎLE MYSTÉRIEUSE ***
Produced by Ebooks libres et gratuits at http://www.ebooksgratuits.com
Also: Why should someone else do this for you? if this was something you were interested in, why not check with them yourself? Why do the "masters" have to check it for you?
JHutch
----- Original Message ----- From: "N Wolcott" <nwolcott@dsdial.net> To: "'Project Gutenberg Volunteer Discussion'" <gutvol-d@lists.pglaf.org> Subject: [gutvol-d] ebooksgratuit Date: Wed, 16 Nov 2005 16:44:01 -0500
Can the masters at DP and PG investigate whether books at ebooksgratuit
may be
harvested?? I know that arrangements have been made with gallica and Canadiana so that all of their product is automatically "pre cleared". Ebooksgratuit has etexts of almost all of Jules Verne books in French from original PD cources, but they do not show the title page in their texts as they have been ocr 'ed. Many of the books are obscure and they must have verified them before
I cannot clear a book from ebooksgratuit as I do not have the tp and verso of the original. Also I have no knowledge that saying it is from ebooksgratuit will pass the copyright censors. Yes some have already been done, many not. My experience has been that only "insiders" get the blanket copyright clearance. Of course I may be wrong, but as far as I know there is no way for me to get clearance. That is whi I posted the question in the first place of course. Juliet's post indicates that they must all be cleared. Obviously someone must have a connection with ebooksgratuit to obtain the tp and v of their books in order to clear them. The indication is that this has already been done; but which books are now clearable is not available. Norm Wolcott nwolcott2@post.harvard.edu ----- Original Message ----- From: "Joshua Hutchinson" <joshua@hutchinson.net> To: "Project Gutenberg Volunteer Discussion" <gutvol-d@lists.pglaf.org> Sent: Wednesday, November 16, 2005 4:57 PM Subject: Re: [gutvol-d] ebooksgratuit posting.
They are already in DOC format and easy to transfer.
any suggestions? Norm Wolcott nwolcott2@post.harvard.edu
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People at ebooksgratuits can clear for PG those books for which they have TP&V. They can clear many more books than you because they come first: if they have a book that is easily clearable, they clear it before you have a chance to chip in.... But to clear a book with rule 1 (pre-1923) it is not strictly necessary to have a pre-1923 book, it is sufficient to have a book that says that it reproduces the content of a pre-1923 book. For example, it can say that the book was originally published in xxxx. Something like "Unabridged edition" too might be enough, if you can prove, e.g. through a catalogue search, that the original was published before 1923. I have cleared books from modern reprints in this way. Then you have to follow the detailed instructions given in the PG FAQ, in http://www.gutenberg.org/faq/V-62 . Carlo Traverso
Karen Lofstrom a écrit:
On Sun, 20 Nov 2005, Carlo Traverso wrote:
People at ebooksgratuits can clear for PG those books for which they have TP&V.
Title Publisher and Version? I'm not familiar with this acronym.
Title Page and Verso (reverse). --Michael
Karen Lofstrom writes:
On Sun, 20 Nov 2005, Carlo Traverso wrote:
People at ebooksgratuits can clear for PG those books for which they have TP&V.
Title Publisher and Version? I'm not familiar with this acronym.
Title Page & Verso. I.e., The title page, and the opposite side of the title page, which usually contains the copyright information, if any.
I am still confused. Is it the case that ebooksgratuit automatically clears with PG those books which fit PG's requirements? How then do we know that thse books have been cleared? There are many more books on ebooksgratuit than have been listed on PG, presumably because of backlog problems. If I want to put one of these on PG (which might not appear for some time because of the backlog) can I do so? I agree that ebooksgratuit automatic conversion processes should be quicker than me fiddling with the text, but if the book is just not appearing what is one to do??? (I certainly do not want to invent work for myself). Norm Wolcott nwolcott2@post.harvard.edu ----- Original Message ----- From: "Carlo Traverso" <traverso@dm.unipi.it> To: <gutvol-d@lists.pglaf.org> Cc: <gutvol-d@lists.pglaf.org> Sent: Sunday, November 20, 2005 12:12 AM Subject: Re: [gutvol-d] ebooksgratuit
People at ebooksgratuits can clear for PG those books for which they have TP&V. They can clear many more books than you because they come first: if they have a book that is easily clearable, they clear it before you have a chance to chip in....
But to clear a book with rule 1 (pre-1923) it is not strictly necessary to have a pre-1923 book, it is sufficient to have a book that says that it reproduces the content of a pre-1923 book. For example, it can say that the book was originally published in xxxx. Something like "Unabridged edition" too might be enough, if you can prove, e.g. through a catalogue search, that the original was published before 1923. I have cleared books from modern reprints in this way.
Then you have to follow the detailed instructions given in the PG FAQ, in http://www.gutenberg.org/faq/V-62 .
Carlo Traverso
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Hi Norm. You asked "How then do we know that thse books have been cleared?" As with any text you might be interested in, check out David Price's "In progress" page. He also sends out warning messages to the people involved if he spots duplicate clearances. If you are interested in adding particular books into PG, yes please go ahead and pursue it. Exchanging emails with the people at the site it is coming from would probably be a good idea. I keep finding more and more online texts that could be added to PG. There are many more out there than I could possibly deal with. So I have to pick and choose... Andrew On Sun, 20 Nov 2005, N Wolcott wrote:
I am still confused. Is it the case that ebooksgratuit automatically clears with PG those books which fit PG's requirements? How then do we know that thse books have been cleared? There are many more books on ebooksgratuit than have been listed on PG, presumably because of backlog problems.
If I want to put one of these on PG (which might not appear for some time because of the backlog) can I do so? I agree that ebooksgratuit automatic conversion processes should be quicker than me fiddling with the text, but if the book is just not appearing what is one to do??? (I certainly do not want to invent work for myself).
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