brad- the post you quoted, from me, was an errant send. it was actually a message posted by someone else. in general, i don't think much about how existing software will treat my files, because i consider it my job to deliver software that does what i want. non-programmers have to live within their apps, but as a programmer, i create the worlds i want... the question of how to "mark up" line-breaks is a non-starter for me. the plain-ascii p.g. e-texts already have hard line-endings in them indicating line-breaks. those are the ones inserted by p.g. my suggestion was that the original line-breaks should be used instead. i think the discussion has run its course this time. maybe it will come up again. or maybe it will not. and maybe there will be demand from users for e-texts that mimic their hard-copy counterparts, or maybe there will not be. maybe jeroen will work up a template i can use. or maybe he won't. time will tell on all these things. or maybe it won't. -bowerbird