so, jim, please tell me what it is that you do
jim said:
And please note, by "regulars" I mean people who were actually contributing to PG, who knew what they were talking about from experience, and who had a stake in the outcome. Monday-morning Quarterbacks weren't really in evidence.
well, jim, since you have said that i am one of the people who don't know what it is that y'all _do_ here, perhaps you would like to explain to us all what it is that you think i fail to comprehend in sufficient detail? because i think i understand it just fine. i even believe i can provide some solutions that you've been unable to provide yourself, such as the he/be thing discussed recently, just to give one concrete example. or, since this thread was talking about the promo boards, a few of the "challenges" that you laid out there, years ago, if you haven't gotten them solved yet. i fully realize that a lot of the people who criticize you and your processes do not fully understand what you're doing, and that wears a person down after a while. but when you put me in that category, i think you are making a big mistake... like the far-too-numerous false-alarms in gutcheck, which cause you to ignore the alarms entirely and therefore miss the times when the alarm was true, i think you've come to ignore everybody's criticism, chalking it up to "you don't know what we do here, and you certainly don't know as much about it as i do", and therefore miss out on some poignant feedback... so by all means, tell me what it is that you do that is so difficult to grasp that i don't get it... -bowerbird
I'll write a quick intro to what Jim does. Meet Jim: Jim Tinsley is one of the 5 or so main people who do eBook "whitewashing." In other words, he does the final checks and posts eBooks, and announces them via the Posted list (http://lists.pglaf.org). Of currently active Project Gutenberg volunteers, only Jim & Brett Fishburn have been doing this activity longer than me, and I'm the only one who's done it longer than Michael. Jim is the main person (one of just a few) who handle our 20+ error reports each week. He's written some of our key behind-the-scenes programs, such as gutcheck. (Brett and I wrote most of the others.) There are only a handful of people who consistently spend 20+ hours per week on PG, directly contributing to our mission (creation & distribution of literature in electronic form). Combined with such folks who spend most of their time with DP, I'd guess there are 20-30 people in "leadership" roles -- where leading is by *doing*. There are numerous other people who spend that amount of time (or more), but are content with more focused tasks -- like proofreading. Such folks are the backbone. Jim, and the other leaders, are at the helm. And, in the immortal words of Arlo Guthrie, "all you need to do to join" is to contribute your efforts consistently and willingly, and with good capability for interacting with others. Beyond being one of those relatively few people (but there are always openings for more!), Jim is one of our foremost experts in character sets, automated error checking, and a few other topics. -- Greg
On 18 May 2005, at 11:07, Greg Newby wrote: [snip] You are talking to the troll. Please stop. If you want to interact with the troll somehow, I stand by my earlier recommendation: moderate it. -- branko collin collin@xs4all.nl
Hi Greg. Can I borrow this for my draft of the newsletter when I get around to doing it? This is exactly the type of thing I'm looking for. I would be interested in the same type of information about the other whitewashers. Joe, David W, David P and Carlo come immediately to mind, but I'm sure there are others I've overlooked. It would be nice to run something like this as a monthly feature. While this is not yet an official call for newsletter content, if anyone else wants to write something like what Greg wrote or can point me to additional information which I can use, I would appreciate it. Also, I don't intend to leave out the key leaders at DP or just the ordinary volunteers, but since the whitewashers are the ones actually doing the posting, and since I get posts from them regularly on the posted list, it seems like a good place to start. At 11:07 AM 5/18/2005 -0700, you wrote:
I'll write a quick intro to what Jim does. Meet Jim:
Jim Tinsley is one of the 5 or so main people who do eBook "whitewashing." In other words, he does the final checks and posts eBooks, and announces them via the Posted list (http://lists.pglaf.org).
(snip)
On Fri, May 20, 2005 at 04:09:57AM -0700, Tony Baechler wrote:
Hi Greg. Can I borrow this for my draft of the newsletter when I get around to doing it? This is exactly the type of thing I'm looking for. I
Definitely, assuming Jim doesn't mind being profiled. I think that bios of various PG folks in various roles would be quite interesting to add to the newsletters. -- Greg
would be interested in the same type of information about the other whitewashers. Joe, David W, David P and Carlo come immediately to mind, but I'm sure there are others I've overlooked. It would be nice to run something like this as a monthly feature. While this is not yet an official call for newsletter content, if anyone else wants to write something like what Greg wrote or can point me to additional information which I can use, I would appreciate it.
Also, I don't intend to leave out the key leaders at DP or just the ordinary volunteers, but since the whitewashers are the ones actually doing the posting, and since I get posts from them regularly on the posted list, it seems like a good place to start.
At 11:07 AM 5/18/2005 -0700, you wrote:
I'll write a quick intro to what Jim does. Meet Jim:
Jim Tinsley is one of the 5 or so main people who do eBook "whitewashing." In other words, he does the final checks and posts eBooks, and announces them via the Posted list (http://lists.pglaf.org).
(snip)
_______________________________________________ gutvol-d mailing list gutvol-d@lists.pglaf.org http://lists.pglaf.org/listinfo.cgi/gutvol-d
From: Greg Newby <gbnewby@pglaf.org> Reply-To: Project Gutenberg Volunteer Discussion <gutvol-d@lists.pglaf.org> Date: Mon, 23 May 2005 11:47:47 -0700 To: Project Gutenberg Volunteer Discussion <gutvol-d@lists.pglaf.org> Subject: Re: [gutvol-d] so, jim, please tell me what it is that you do
On Fri, May 20, 2005 at 04:09:57AM -0700, Tony Baechler wrote:
Hi Greg. Can I borrow this for my draft of the newsletter when I get around to doing it? This is exactly the type of thing I'm looking for. I
Definitely, assuming Jim doesn't mind being profiled. I think that bios of various PG folks in various roles would be quite interesting to add to the newsletters. -- Greg
As a writer of local histories, I endorse this proposal. The day will come when somebody will want to write a history of PG. Dick Adicks
participants (5)
-
Bowerbird＠aol.com -
Branko Collin -
Dick Adicks -
Greg Newby -
Tony Baechler