it's that time of year again

i wait all year for this time. what, you ask, thanksgiving? well, yeah. but not exactly... see, 4 years ago, david rothman of teleread.com -- who's affectionately known as "the idiot" by david moynihan -- made me a little bet, and every year at this time i revisit it. david, like his best buddy jon noring, had repeated for years that "within 5 years, we will have cheap high-quality screens, and e-reader-machines will be readily available for just $50." well, along about 2001, i started pointed out to jon noring that he had been spouting that line for 5 years already, all without his big "prediction" ever coming true. finally, after a few years of that, noring finally stopped spewing that particular untruth. but rothman never got the message, and kept on babbling his insane prediction. i called him on it, repeatedly, such as:
http://www.teleread.org/blog/2005/11/29/you-can-buy-the-mit-100-laptop-for-2... rothman responded, in november of 2005, with:
Folks, tune in a year from now, and we’ll see who’s right. The MIT Media Lab has suffered its share of debacles, but I’d bet my money on it in this case
so i took rothman up on the offer, even extending out the bet. i said that if there were a $50 e-book machine within 5 years, i would buy it for him, or -- if he preferred -- a tofu turkey... so every year, around this time, i "check back" to laugh at him. 2006 came and went, and i was right. 2007 and 2008 as well. now it's 2009, and there's no $50 e-book-machine out there. so, after checking back for 4 straight years, i'm _still_ right... rothman's crystal ball is severely cracked. it always has been. that people listen to the man is a testament to their stupidity. tech-wise, he couldn't punch his way out of a wet paper bag... and has david learned anything? nope. he's still just as stupid as ever, still acting like a cheap machine is "around the corner", still using his blog to trumpet up whatever bucket of gullibility a screen-technology p.r. person is willing to type up for him... meanwhile... my bet that it would take until 2011 to hit an inexpensive price-point is looking to be accurate as the years roll by. key to it is if/when the pixel qi screen attains its promise. but now in 2009? well, david, you were wrong, i was right. at any rate, have a very lovely thanksgiving, everyone... even you -- david -- and i hope that crow tastes good. -bowerbird

On Tue, Nov 24, 2009 at 05:05:47PM -0500, Bowerbird@aol.com wrote:
see, 4 years ago, david rothman of teleread.com -- who's affectionately known as "the idiot" by david moynihan -- made me a little bet, and every year at this time i revisit it.
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so i took rothman up on the offer, even extending out the bet. i said that if there were a $50 e-book machine within 5 years, i would buy it for him, or -- if he preferred -- a tofu turkey...
so every year, around this time, i "check back" to laugh at him.
2006 came and went, and i was right. 2007 and 2008 as well. now it's 2009, and there's no $50 e-book-machine out there.
Who defines the requirements to meet this particular bet? Because I purchased a first-generation iPhone almost 8 months ago, and it works just fine in my opinion as an "e-book machine". And how much did I pay for it? $50 plus tax and shipping

In fact, with a bit of Google-fu, I see an ad [1] claiming I could have gotten that same device for $50 almost a year ago. [1] http://www.wirelessandmobilenews.com/2008/12/best_after_xmas_holiday_wirless...

If anyone sees iPhones like that this year, let me know. . . . mh On Tue, 24 Nov 2009, Joey Smith wrote:
In fact, with a bit of Google-fu, I see an ad [1] claiming I could have gotten that same device for $50 almost a year ago.
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... and without an AT&T contract. On Tue, Nov 24, 2009 at 6:19 PM, Michael S. Hart <hart@pglaf.org> wrote:
If anyone sees iPhones like that this year, let me know. . . .
mh
On Tue, 24 Nov 2009, Joey Smith wrote:
In fact, with a bit of Google-fu, I see an ad [1] claiming I could have gotten that same device for $50 almost a year ago.
[1] http://www.wirelessandmobilenews.com/2008/12/best_after_xmas_holiday_wirless... _______________________________________________

If anyone sees iPhones like that this year, let me know. . . .
Meanwhile bargain hunters can check out eBay for various brands. Handy link: http://shop.ebay.com/i.html?LH_BIN=1&LH_IncludeSIF=1&_trkparms=65%253A12%257C66%253A2%257C39%253A1%257C72%253A2465&_nkw=pda&_ipg=100&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14 A 32MB Compaq Ipaq ("guaranteed fully working") with a brand-new battery is $45 with free U.S. shipping. URL is: http://cgi.ebay.com/COMPAQ-IPAQ-3630-3635-32MB-POCKET-PC-HANDHELD-PDA_W0QQit... And that's just one example of the possibilities, and probably not the best. David Rothman TeleRead.org Michael S. Hart wrote:
If anyone sees iPhones like that this year, let me know. . . .
mh
On Tue, 24 Nov 2009, Joey Smith wrote:
In fact, with a bit of Google-fu, I see an ad [1] claiming I could have gotten that same device for $50 almost a year ago.
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David H. Rothman schreef:
And, yes, thanks to Pixel Qi and E Ink, some interesting possibilities are ahead to reduce hardware prices and sharpen the view. Exactly when will these good things happen? As I've said before, who's to say for sure precisely when? But we should be looking ahead to the time when e-book technology is going to get much better.
Not anywhere near the $50 (which won't buy you a good diner over here anymore), but I've seen Cool-ER's in mainstream electronics stores for under 300 Euro nowadays. When I got my iRex iLiad a few years ago, you could only get it at a specific bookstore chain, not mention at a somewhat different price point. To me this means that e-readers are becoming 'normal'. Regards, Walter
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Bowerbird@aol.com
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David H. Rothman
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don kretz
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Joey Smith
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Michael S. Hart
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Walter van Holst