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Re: Cheap Asian "Kindle Clones"
by Bowerbird＠aol.com 08 Nov '10

08 Nov '10

jim said: > http://www.kindlecases.net/10-dirt-cheap-kindle-3-knock-offs/ geez, jim, do you even read these sites? or think about 'em at all? to save everyone else from a useless trip and 5 wasted minutes, let me tell you that 7 of the 10 "dirt-cheap kindle-3 knock-offs" don't include a price. 2 of the 10 are more expensive than kindle ($366 and $225). and the other one weighs in with a $90 price... so we've got one semi-dirt-cheap kindle-3 "knock-off". at most. but of course it's not the hardware that makes the kindle attractive, not in the slightest. it's the e-book inventory which amazon offers. and which none of these "knock-offs" can ever hope to hook up with. so don't waste your money... don't even waste those 5 minutes... -bowerbird

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Re: Quick question about file formats
by Marcello Perathoner 08 Nov '10

08 Nov '10

William Waites wrote: > On Sat, Oct 30, 2010 at 08:56:50PM +0200, Marcello Perathoner wrote: >> Paulo Levi wrote: >>> Another quick question :) >>> Are the rules for creating a download url from the "file" tag in the rdf >>> catalog consistent? >> The "algorithm" is the expansion of XML entities, which any common >> run-of-the-mill xml parser will do for you. > > RDF != XML > >> I think we had this discussion already. This is an XML file and should >> be processed thru an XML parser. If you don't, every little cosmetic >> change to the file structure will break your program. You have been warned. > > If you're trying to interpret RDF data, it's better > to use a library, they exist for just about all > programming languages. If you try to interpret it > as XML you are asking for trouble. > > It is too bad that the RDF you get from here, > http://www.gutenberg.org/ebooks/12345.rdf > is different from the catalogue. This is intended and documented. http://www.gutenberg.org/wiki/Gutenberg:Feeds The old catalog.rdf is a legacy format we keep for compatibiity. > > This is because you have > > xml:base="http://www.gutenberg.org/feeds/catalog.rdf > > and then, e.g. > > rdf:ID="etext12345" > > This amounts to giving the URI > > http://www.gutenberg.org/feeds/catalog.rdfetext12345 > > to that book which is not what you intend. Wrong. This gives http://www.gutenberg.org/feeds/catalog.rdf#etext12345 "The rdf:ID attribute on a node element (not property element, that has another meaning) can be used instead of rdf:about and gives a relative RDF URI reference equivalent to # concatenated with the rdf:ID attribute value." > > If on the other hand you had used > > rdf:about="http://www.gutenberg.org/ebooks/12345" > > the data would be the same (which I guess is > what you intend). > > where lower down you talk about formats, > you use > > rdf:resource="#etext12345" > > which refers to > > http://www.gutenberg.org/feeds/catalog.rdf#etext12345 > > which if it weren't for the error with rdf:ID would > at least be consistent within the catalogue. > > But supposing this is fixed, I still have two > URIs for one text: > > http://www.gutenberg.org/feeds/catalog.rdf#etext12345 > http://www.gutenberg.org/ebooks/12345 > > and you've given no way of knowing that they are > in fact the same. Because you are not supposed to mix the old catalog.rdf with the new catalog.rdf which will be put online when I get to finish it. -- Marcello Perathoner webmaster(a)gutenberg.org

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Re: Quick question about file formats
by Paulo Levi 01 Nov '10

01 Nov '10

On Mon, Nov 1, 2010 at 12:18 PM, Paulo Levi <i30817(a)gmail.com> wrote: > BTW, i've found some irregularities now that i'm parsing with Apache > Digester (fantastic btw) - i don't know if this is just because the current > sum rdf is unmaintained, but here they are ( understand that my list is > already filtered to ebooks with text/*something* mimetype so this is by no > means complete) : > > (no language tag, seems like they should have it). > <pgterms:etext rdf:ID="etext1065"> > <dc:publisher>&pg;</dc:publisher> > <dc:title rdf:parseType="Literal">The Raven</dc:title> > <dc:creator rdf:parseType="Literal">Poe, Edgar Allan, > 1809-1849</dc:creator> > <pgterms:friendlytitle rdf:parseType="Literal">The Raven by Edgar Allan > Poe</pgterms:friendlytitle> > <dc:subject><dcterms:LCSH><rdf:value>Poetry, > English</rdf:value></dcterms:LCSH></dc:subject> > > <dc:subject><dcterms:LCC><rdf:value>PS</rdf:value></dcterms:LCC></dc:subject> > > <dc:created><dcterms:W3CDTF><rdf:value>1997-10-01</rdf:value></dcterms:W3CDTF></dc:created> > <dc:rights rdf:resource="&lic;" /> > </pgterms:etext> > > <pgterms:etext rdf:ID="etext34081"> > <dc:publisher>&pg;</dc:publisher> > <dc:title rdf:parseType="Literal">Myths & Legends of the Celtic > Race</dc:title> > <dc:creator rdf:parseType="Literal">Rolleston, T. W. (Thomas William), > 1857-1920</dc:creator> > <pgterms:friendlytitle rdf:parseType="Literal">Myths & Legends of the > Celtic Race by Rolleston</pgterms:friendlytitle> > > <dc:created><dcterms:W3CDTF><rdf:value>2010-10-17</rdf:value></dcterms:W3CDTF></dc:created> > <dc:rights rdf:resource="&lic;" /> > </pgterms:etext> > > > The only other text work without a language tag is "Catalan's Constant to > 1,500,000 Places", that at least is understandable. > > There are lots of text/* works without authors (heh), some of which make a > little sense (religion) others not so much (missing Anonymous i guess): > > The Bible, Old and New Testaments, King James Version > New Etext of Bible [King James Version] > The Golden Mean or Ratio[(1+sqrt(5))/2] > Catalan's Constant to 1,500,000 Places > Bibeln, Gamla och Nya Testamentet > Det Gamle Testamente af 1931 > The World English Bible (WEB): Matthew > The Bible, Douay-Rheims, Book 01: Genesis The Challoner Revision > The Bible, Douay-Rheims, Book 02: Exodus The Challoner Revision > The Bible, Douay-Rheims, Book 03: Leviticus The Challoner Revision > The Bible, Douay-Rheims, Book 04: Numbers The Challoner Revision > The Bible, Douay-Rheims, Book 05: Deuteronomy The Challoner Revision > The Bible, Douay-Rheims, Book 06: Josue The Challoner Revision > The Bible, Douay-Rheims, Book 07: Judges The Challoner Revision > The Bible, Douay-Rheims, Book 08: Ruth The Challoner Revision > The Bible, Douay-Rheims, Book 09: 1 Kings The Challoner Revision > The Bible, Douay-Rheims, Book 10: 2 Kings The Challoner Revision > The Bible, Douay-Rheims, Book 11: 3 Kings The Challoner Revision > The Bible, Douay-Rheims, Book 12: 4 Kings The Challoner Revision > The Bible, Douay-Rheims, Book 13: 1 Paralipomenon The Challoner Revision > The Bible, Douay-Rheims, Book 14: 2 Paralipomenon The Challoner Revision > The Bible, Douay-Rheims, Book 15: 1 Esdras The Challoner Revision > The Bible, Douay-Rheims, Book 16: 2 Esdras The Challoner Revision > The Bible, Douay-Rheims, Book 17: Tobias The Challoner Revision > The Bible, Douay-Rheims, Book 18: Judith The Challoner Revision > The Bible, Douay-Rheims, Book 19: Esther The Challoner Revision > The Bible, Douay-Rheims, Book 20: Job The Challoner Revision > The Bible, Douay-Rheims, Book 21: Psalms The Challoner Revision > The Bible, Douay-Rheims, Book 22: Proverbs The Challoner Revision > The Bible, Douay-Rheims, Book 23: Ecclesiastes The Challoner Revision > The Bible, Douay-Rheims, Book 24: Canticle of Canticles The Challoner > Revision > The Bible, Douay-Rheims, Book 25: Wisdom The Challoner Revision > The Bible, Douay-Rheims, Book 26: Ecclesiasticus The Challoner Revision > The Bible, Douay-Rheims, Book 27: Isaias The Challoner Revision > The Bible, Douay-Rheims, Book 28: Jeremias The Challoner Revision > The Bible, Douay-Rheims, Book 29: Lamentations of Jeremias The Challoner > Revision > The Bible, Douay-Rheims, Book 30: Baruch The Challoner Revision > The Bible, Douay-Rheims, Book 31: Ezechiel The Challoner Revision > The Bible, Douay-Rheims, Book 32: Daniel The Challoner Revision > The Bible, Douay-Rheims, Book 33: Osee The Challoner Revision > The Bible, Douay-Rheims, Book 34: Joel The Challoner Revision > The Bible, Douay-Rheims, Book 35: Amos The Challoner Revision > The Bible, Douay-Rheims, Book 36: Abdias The Challoner Revision > The Bible, Douay-Rheims, Book 37: Jonas The Challoner Revision > The Bible, Douay-Rheims, Book 38: Micheas The Challoner Revision > The Bible, Douay-Rheims, Book 39: Nahum The Challoner Revision > The Bible, Douay-Rheims, Book 40: Habacuc The Challoner Revision > The Bible, Douay-Rheims, Book 41: Sophonias The Challoner Revision > The Bible, Douay-Rheims, Book 42: Aggeus The Challoner Revision > The Bible, Douay-Rheims, Book 43: Zacharias The Challoner Revision > The Bible, Douay-Rheims, Book 44: Malachias The Challoner Revision > The Bible, Douay-Rheims, Book 45: 1 Machabees The Challoner Revision > The Bible, Douay-Rheims, Book 46: 2 Machabees The Challoner Revision > The Bible, Douay-Rheims, Book 47: Matthew The Challoner Revision > The Bible, Douay-Rheims, Book 48: Mark The Challoner Revision > The Bible, Douay-Rheims, Book 49: Luke The Challoner Revision > The Bible, Douay-Rheims, Book 50: John The Challoner Revision > The Bible, Douay-Rheims, Book 51: Acts The Challoner Revision > The Bible, Douay-Rheims, Book 52: Romans The Challoner Revision > The Bible, Douay-Rheims, Book 53: 1 Corinthians The Challoner Revision > The Bible, Douay-Rheims, Book 54: 2 Corinthians The Challoner Revision > The Bible, Douay-Rheims, Book 55: Galatians The Challoner Revision > The Bible, Douay-Rheims, Book 56: Ephesians The Challoner Revision > The Bible, Douay-Rheims, Book 57: Philippians The Challoner Revision > The Bible, Douay-Rheims, Book 58: Colossians The Challoner Revision > The Bible, Douay-Rheims, Book 59: 1 Thessalonians The Challoner Revision > The Bible, Douay-Rheims, Book 60: 2 Thessalonians The Challoner Revision > The Bible, Douay-Rheims, Book 61: 1 Timothy The Challoner Revision > The Bible, Douay-Rheims, Book 62: 2 Timothy The Challoner Revision > The Bible, Douay-Rheims, Book 63: Titus The Challoner Revision > The Bible, Douay-Rheims, Book 64: Philemon The Challoner Revision > The Bible, Douay-Rheims, Book 65: Hebrews The Challoner Revision > The Bible, Douay-Rheims, Book 66: James The Challoner Revision > The Bible, Douay-Rheims, Book 67: 1 Peter The Challoner Revision > The Bible, Douay-Rheims, Book 68: 2 Peter The Challoner Revision > The Bible, Douay-Rheims, Book 69: 1 John The Challoner Revision > The Bible, Douay-Rheims, Book 70: 2 John The Challoner Revision > The Bible, Douay-Rheims, Book 71: 3 John The Challoner Revision > The Bible, Douay-Rheims, Book 72: Jude The Challoner Revision > The Bible, Douay-Rheims, Book 73: Apocalypse The Challoner Revision > Spalding's Official Baseball Guide - 1913 > The first New Testament printed in English > The Poetical Works of Addison; Gay's Fables; and Somerville's Chase With > Memoirs and Critical Dissertations, by the Rev. George Gilfillan > The War and Democracy > Lady John Russell > La dernière lettre écrite par des soldats français tombés au champ > d'honneur 1914-1918 > Buena Nueva de acuerdo a Mateo: Traducción de dominio público abierta a > mejoras > Buena Nueva de acuerdo a Marcos: Traducción de dominio público abierta a > mejoras > Buena Nueva de acuerdo a Lucas: Traducción de dominio público abierta a > mejoras > Buena Nueva de acuerdo a Juan: Traducción de dominio público abierta a > mejoras > The Divine Right of Church Government by Sundry Ministers Of Christ Within > The City Of London > Charles Duran Or, The Career of a Bad Boy By the author of "The Waldos" > A Handbook of the Boer War With General Map of South Africa and 18 Sketch > Maps and Plans > A Jolly by Josh > "Contemptible", by "Casualty" > Tea-Cup Reading and Fortune-Telling by Tea Leaves, by a Highland Seer > Jesus of Nazareth, A Biography, by John Mark > Baseball ABC > A Museum for Young Gentlemen and Ladies Or, a Private Tutor for Little > Masters and Misses > Il Vanzeli di Mateo > The Irish ecclesiastical record Volume 1, Index > Harper's New Monthly Magazine, February, 1852 > Harper's New Monthly Magazine, No. 22, March, 1852, Volume 4. > Practical Angora Goat Raising > Down Town Brooklyn A Report to the Comptroller of the City of New York on > Sites for Public Buildings and the Relocation of the Elevated Railroad > Tracks now in Lower Fulton Street, Borough of Brooklyn > Civic League Cook Book > Harper's New Monthly Magazine, No. V, October, 1850, Volume I. > > > There is also the amazing case of the titleless, authorless book: > <pgterms:etext rdf:ID="etext32694"> > <dc:publisher>&pg;</dc:publisher> > <pgterms:friendlytitle rdf:parseType="Literal"></pgterms:friendlytitle> > > <dc:created><dcterms:W3CDTF><rdf:value>2010-06-05</rdf:value></dcterms:W3CDTF></dc:created> > <dc:rights rdf:resource="&lic;" /> > </pgterms:etext> > > > I leave the decision of how to address this or if it is worth it to address > to you. >

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Fwd: Re: Quick question about file formats
by Paulo Levi 01 Nov '10

01 Nov '10

Didn't send this somehow. Here is the follow up message too: Oh yeah, also filtering by text/* and zipped files (the checked works are even less) and i'm joining authors and contributors (so the no authors list above is about both, probably there are some that have no authors and contributors). Do you want me do some simple validators? If you have some rules for the schema like one title or at least one creator etc. ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Paulo Levi <i30817(a)gmail.com> Date: Mon, Nov 1, 2010 at 12:30 PM Subject: Re: [gutvol-p] Re: Quick question about file formats To: Marcello Perathoner <marcello(a)perathoner.de> Oh yeah, also filtering by text/* and zipped files (the checked works are even less) and i'm joining authors and contributors (so the no authors list above is about both, probably there are some that have no authors and contributors). Do you want me do some simple validators? If you have some rules for the schema like one title or at least one creator etc.

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