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If you don't mind testing a program
by Paulo Levi 02 Aug '09

02 Aug '09

This is my reader with the Gutenberg indexing now. Its so very large because I'm including the tts and built index in the download. I'd like to know what do you think of the Gutenberg download (right click toggle Gutenberg). http://rapidshare.com/files/262224026/BookJar.7z.html Also after you tire of searching, i'd like to know how efficient is the reindexing process in other machines. So i'd ask you to delete what's inside the directory named cache, so that the next time the Gutenberg download list is accessed it reindexes.

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Isn't it strange that the creators have birth and death dates included in the tag?
by Paulo Levi 19 Jul '09

19 Jul '09

I suppose this is going to cause me problems later, since i'm using the open library webservice to fetch book covers, and its very sensitive to false information. I can't think of a way to remove it because of the seperator used, just about the worst possible choice since "," appears as delimiter of the first and last names. Not to speak of the names in french and latin or organizations that either don't have ",". The other possible match "-" also appears in names... possibly a regex like this "[0-9]+* (B\.C\.)? [0-9]+*" ? Then there are cases like "Sunzi, 6th cent. B.C." Bad metadata!

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Bizarre.
by Paulo Levi 17 Jul '09

17 Jul '09

What are the obligatory rdf triples? Apparently editors of collections have no predefined tag and ommit creator. What about books with various authors?

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Programmatic fetching books from Gutenberg
by Paulo Levi 16 Jul '09

16 Jul '09

I made a ebook reader (here) http://code.google.com/p/bookjar/downloads/list and i'd like to search and download Gutenberg books. I already have a searcher prototype using LuceneSail a library that uses Lucene to index rdf documents and only indexing what i want from the catalog.rdf.zip. Now i'd like to know how from the url inside the catalog i can fetch the book itself, and what are the variants for the formats. A example query result: author: Shakespeare, William, 1564-1616 url: http://www.gutenberg.org/feeds/catalog.rdf#etext1802 title: King Henry VIII So, i like to know how from the etext1802 number can i get a working url to download the book, and how to construct variants for each format. Thank you in advance.

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Re: Programmatic fetching books from Gutenberg
by John Mark Ockerbloom 16 Jul '09

16 Jul '09

(sending this time to the proper list address) Prior to etext #10000, Gutenberg filenames were strings that didn't have anything to do with the etext numbers (except that the number indirectly determined which etext* directory files would be in, since both the numbers and the etext* directories were tied to release date). As these early etexts get revised, they typically move into the new numerically-based-filename system. However, there are still slightly more than 6000 Gutenberg etexts that use the old-style filenames. Information about the filenames, new and old, is included in the RDF file. For instance, if you are interested in etext #3167, you'll find a metadata record for it early in the file in a pgterms:etext element with ID "etext3167". Later in the RDF file, you'll see two pgterms:file elements that have an isFormatOf relationship with the ID "etext3167". Those elements in turn specify information about the two files associated with that etext, including name, MIME type, length, and last-modified date. The name of the file, in particular, is in the rdf:about attribute of the pgterms:file element. In this case, you'll find that the two files associate with etext #3167 are in etext02/wsxpm10.txt and etext02/wsxpm10.zip (relative to the top-level Gutenberg text directory). If for some reason the RDF itself is too big for you to handle easily, it looks like it's auto-generated, so you could probably write a script in Perl or some other suitable text-crunching language to extract only the information you're interested in, in some more compact form. I have my own independent copy of some of this information, in my own format, which I assembled before the RDF directory was made available. But if I were to start over again, I'd probably just pull straight from the RDF. (And try to be more proactive about getting Gutenberg to fix its metadata at various spots instead of just fixing it on my end.) I hoep this helps. John

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Re: Is there anything going on in this forum?
by Joshua Hutchinson 26 Jun '09

26 Jun '09

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Re: Is there anything going on in this forum?
by Bowerbird＠aol.com 26 Jun '09

26 Jun '09

al- nope, not much going on here. try the "gutvol-d" address instead of "gutvol-p". as for computer-voiced versions of the e-texts, i don't think there's much demand for that, and if there is, people can do it themselves, using the specific voice that they themselves prefer... but if you want to human-voice some e-texts, there is a wonderful project doing just that: > http://librivox.org/ -bowerbird ************** Stay connected and tighten your budget with a great mobile device for under $20. Take a Peek! (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100122638x1222405996x1201457362/aol?redir=htt…)

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Is there anything going on in this forum?
by Alfred Gajda 26 Jun '09

26 Jun '09

To all. I have been messing around with transcribing Gutenberg's E-text into MP3 files using the "VW Paul" voice. This is a very good voice and makes the EBooks very easy to understand, as apposed to "Microsoft Sam" which is quite bad. Is there any other activity in this area?? Al Gajda

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Re: [posted] Re: Posted (#28761, Moodie) !
by Joshua Hutchinson 12 May '09

12 May '09

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re: [gutvol-p] Re: [pgww] Size/image limit in Web browser?
by Bowerbird＠aol.com 04 Jan '06

04 Jan '06

jim said: > I've seen some horrible numbers of images in one HTML file, > where things get creaky but don't actually break. i've seen things get creaky even in big files with no images, creaky to the point that usability is significantly compromised (e.g., a delay of over a minute after a simple resize of a window). > Though I think I had to wait 15 minutes once for one page to load > -- from my LOCAL disk! i think we all agree that's broken, not creaky. > I suppose you could do some tests. unless you're doing them on an old machine, which usually means an old browser as well, your tests will misrepresent that experience... i am quite sure most people on this listserve, with their high-powered machines, would be shocked to learn how many people out there are running old machinery, including _far_ too many kids in schools, the same schools that also cannot afford to stock their library, and thus who are an excellent target-market for a free-in-every-sense copy of the classics. > I suppose you could do some tests. i suppose you could _solicit_ input from users. > Older browser versions and/or older computers > certainly have trouble with large HTML files > and/or lots of images. right. of course, the "solution" -- multiple files -- can be as bad as the problem of a large single file. thankfully, word-processors can handle text files of very large sizes without too many hassles at all, even ones running on those old, slow machines... > But, if PG hasn't received too many complaints > on this with existing large files, perhaps it's > manageable for most people. without a public and transparent feedback loop, it's extremely difficult to know what "most people" actually do and do not find "manageable", since victims on the poor side of the digital divide have long since resigned themselves to suffer in silence. it takes active and constant prodding and pleading to get 'em to tell you that they are having problems. so silence should _not_ be taken as an "all ok" sign. and, just as a reminder, michael's target is _not_ "most people", but rather includes _everyone_, even people using monitors with green-on-black, like michael himself... -bowerbird

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