Re: [PGCanada] Last Call for Web Hosting
She shoots...she scores. :) We need PHP and MySQL; probably 10 GB of space would get us going - although, if we make page scans available (which I think we should), the storage requirements will increase a lot. (I'd be willing to kick in the cost of a drive to help subsidize this when the time comes.) I'd like to run PmWiki (http://www.pmwiki.org/wiki/PmWiki/Requirements), which is powering our current wiki at http://www.jenzed.com/pgcawiki/pmwiki.php - it's really lightweight. I'd also like to run a CMS - maybe Drupal (http://www.drupal.org/), although I'm still not sure if that's the best fit for PG-CA. Drupal (and probably most CMSs) will require some "special" MySQL permissions - like the ability for users to do a LOCK TABLE. (The main reason I've hit the wall with my personal retail web space provider - and therefore don't know if Drupal will work for us - is that they won't allow this permission to be granted to users.) I completely understand your reservations regarding bandwidth. I suspect and hope, though, that when (if) our bandwidth demands get too big, it'll mean we're big enough to get sponsors. thx! jen. On 4/23/05, Russell McOrmond <russell@flora.ca> wrote:
Let me know what is needed. I can offer to help get things started under the understanding that if bandwidth gets too high then we'd need to look for other sponsors (funding, bandwidth, whatever).
I currently run a number of related sites... Most of the volunteer stuff can be seen at http://newdelhi.flora.ca/
On Fri, 22 Apr 2005, Jen Zed wrote:
Does anyone know anyone in a position to donate web hosting to us? I'd like to move forward on getting permanent space - my personal sandbox is getting kind of cramped, and I'm annoyed at the big, dumb, mass-volume hosting company I'm working with. We need Linux, PHP, MySQL - the usual stuff.
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On Sun, 24 Apr 2005, Jen Zed wrote:
She shoots...she scores. :)
We need PHP and MySQL; probably 10 GB of space would get us going - although, if we make page scans available (which I think we should), the storage requirements will increase a lot. (I'd be willing to kick in the cost of a drive to help subsidize this when the time comes.)
If you go to http://newdelhi.flora.ca/ you will see a list of the virtual servers (Apache style) that you would be sharing that server with. You will see many other LAMP sites including Drupal sites. Do you know if all the applications you would be wanting run under PHP safe mode? Some applications are picky about this, but most are not. The other question is whether you would need shell access, or whether FTP access (chroot'd) would be sufficient. On that server I'm not using any of the OS vitalization techniques (such as User Mode Linux), only Apache virtual servers for web. This means I rely on FTP's chroot() and php safe mode to keep each virtual server from playing with each other's files. If you need SSH and other type of access then we need to put you on a different server under UML. With the election coming up soon this would become a bad time to try to set this up as I'm focusing on other server upgrades/configuration at the moment.
Drupal (and probably most CMSs) will require some "special" MySQL permissions - like the ability for users to do a LOCK TABLE. (The main reason I've hit the wall with my personal retail web space provider - and therefore don't know if Drupal will work for us - is that they won't allow this permission to be granted to users.)
Interesting. I don't restrict things that way for our MySQL accounts. We set up a unique user/password and create a database where that userID has full permissions (including GRANT) on that database. If you also want an account with less permissions that can be done as well, but I never saw the need for not giving a full-privileged MySQL account.
I completely understand your reservations regarding bandwidth. I suspect and hope, though, that when (if) our bandwidth demands get too big, it'll mean we're big enough to get sponsors.
Agreed. It can also grow in stages depending on what is required. -- Russell McOrmond, Internet Consultant: <http://www.flora.ca/> Boycott legacy Motion Picture and Recording Industries from April 24-30 http://www.digital-copyright.ca/node/view/786
On 4/25/05, Russell McOrmond <russell@flora.ca> wrote:
Do you know if all the applications you would be wanting run under PHP safe mode? Some applications are picky about this, but most are not. The other question is whether you would need shell access, or whether FTP access (chroot'd) would be sufficient.
It seems like safe mode should be okay for PmWiki (http://www.pmwiki.org/wiki/PmWiki/PmWikiFeatures); however, some folks say they've had to do a manual chmod to allow for new file creation (http://www.pmwiki.org/wiki/PmWiki/FilePermissions). There may be other issues - we'll see how it goes. Regarding the CMS, if other sites that you host use Drupal, then I imagine we'll be fine. FTP access will be fine - I don't forsee an immediate need for shell access.
Drupal (and probably most CMSs) will require some "special" MySQL permissions - like the ability for users to do a LOCK TABLE.
Interesting. I don't restrict things that way for our MySQL accounts.
Yeah, the Drupal community's take on the restriction is that it's dumb security via a sledgehammer rather than smart security via a tuning fork. jen.
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