!!! Copyright problem? Re: Posted (#23892, Jenkins AKA Leinster) !
Murray Leinster appears to have registered its copyright for "Long Ago, Far Away" under its book title, _Four from Planet 5_. The original registration is dated Dec. 1, 1959; this magazine version was published in the September 1959 _Amazing_. The copyright to _Four From Planet 5_ was eventually renewed; the renewal for the book is RE0000357956, dated Nov. 10, 1987. While the magazine publication does precede the book by a few months, I recall that in the dispute over some of Poul Anderson's works, PG was considering the publication of a story in a magazine and a book as a single "publication event" if they were close enough, and that the copyright registration for one would be considered to apply to the other. (IIRC, some of the examples in the Anderson dispute might not have been as closely published as this one.) If that's the case, this story probably shouldn't have been cleared. Can someone let me know what your determination is on this one? Thanks. John On 12/18/07 12:36 PM, Suzanne Lybarger wrote:
Long Ago, Far Away, by William Fitzgerald Jenkins AKA Murray Leinster 23892 [Illustrator: Finlay] [Link: http://www.gutenberg.org/2/3/8/9/23892 ] [Files: 23892.txt; 23892-8.txt; 23892-h.htm]
Thanks to Greg Weeks, Stephen Blundell and the Online Distributed Proofreading Team at http://www.pgdp.net
Suzanne
Thanks for this, John. I've reviewed it, and found the story is essentially the same, but the expression is not. I.e., the changes are non-trivial from the serial to the book. I've decided to go ahead and remove our #23892, though this is a marginal case and we have not heard from the author. Apologies to Greg Weeks and the rest of the submission team, for not catching this earlier. WW'ers: please re-use this for a future submission. -- Greg On Tue, May 29, 2012 at 06:35:19PM -0400, John Mark Ockerbloom wrote:
Murray Leinster appears to have registered its copyright for "Long Ago, Far Away" under its book title, _Four from Planet 5_. The original registration is dated Dec. 1, 1959; this magazine version was published in the September 1959 _Amazing_. The copyright to _Four From Planet 5_ was eventually renewed; the renewal for the book is RE0000357956, dated Nov. 10, 1987.
While the magazine publication does precede the book by a few months, I recall that in the dispute over some of Poul Anderson's works, PG was considering the publication of a story in a magazine and a book as a single "publication event" if they were close enough, and that the copyright registration for one would be considered to apply to the other. (IIRC, some of the examples in the Anderson dispute might not have been as closely published as this one.) If that's the case, this story probably shouldn't have been cleared.
Can someone let me know what your determination is on this one? Thanks.
John
On 12/18/07 12:36 PM, Suzanne Lybarger wrote:
Long Ago, Far Away, by William Fitzgerald Jenkins AKA Murray Leinster 23892 [Illustrator: Finlay] [Link: http://www.gutenberg.org/2/3/8/9/23892 ] [Files: 23892.txt; 23892-8.txt; 23892-h.htm]
Thanks to Greg Weeks, Stephen Blundell and the Online Distributed Proofreading Team at http://www.pgdp.net
Suzanne
Dr. Gregory B. Newby Chief Executive and Director Project Gutenberg Literary Archive Foundation www.gutenberg.org A 501(c)(3) not-for-profit organization with EIN 64-6221541 gbnewby@pglaf.org
FYI - 23892 has been re-used. Al
-----Original Message----- From: pgww-bounces@lists.pglaf.org [mailto:pgww-bounces@lists.pglaf.org] On Behalf Of Greg Newby Sent: Monday, August 06, 2012 6:05 AM To: Project Gutenberg Postings Announcements; John Mark Ockerbloom Cc: Suzanne Lybarger; dp-post@pgdp.net; Stephen Blundell; Gregory D. Weeks Subject: Re: [pgww] [posted] !!! Copyright problem? Re: Posted (#23892, Jenkins AKA Leinster) !
Thanks for this, John. I've reviewed it, and found the story is essentially the same, but the expression is not. I.e., the changes are non-trivial from the serial to the book.
I've decided to go ahead and remove our #23892, though this is a marginal case and we have not heard from the author. Apologies to Greg Weeks and the rest of the submission team, for not catching this earlier.
WW'ers: please re-use this for a future submission. -- Greg
Murray Leinster appears to have registered its copyright for "Long Ago, Far Away" under its book title, _Four from Planet 5_. The original registration is dated Dec. 1, 1959; this magazine version was published in the September 1959 _Amazing_. The copyright to _Four From Planet 5_ was eventually renewed; the renewal for the book is RE0000357956, dated Nov. 10, 1987.
While the magazine publication does precede the book by a few months, I recall that in the dispute over some of Poul Anderson's works, PG was considering the publication of a story in a magazine and a book as a single "publication event" if they were close enough, and
On Tue, May 29, 2012 at 06:35:19PM -0400, John Mark Ockerbloom wrote: that the
copyright registration for one would be considered to apply to the other. (IIRC, some of the examples in the Anderson dispute might not have been as closely published as this one.) If that's the case, this story probably shouldn't have been cleared.
Can someone let me know what your determination is on this one? Thanks.
John
On 12/18/07 12:36 PM, Suzanne Lybarger wrote:
Long Ago, Far Away, by William Fitzgerald Jenkins AKA Murray Leinster 23892 [Illustrator: Finlay] [Link: http://www.gutenberg.org/2/3/8/9/23892 ] [Files: 23892.txt; 23892-8.txt; 23892-h.htm]
Thanks to Greg Weeks, Stephen Blundell and the Online Distributed Proofreading Team at http://www.pgdp.net
Suzanne
Dr. Gregory B. Newby Chief Executive and Director Project Gutenberg Literary Archive Foundation www.gutenberg.org A 501(c)(3) not-for-profit > organization with EIN 64-6221541 gbnewby@pglaf.org
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