May 2005 - gutvol-d - lists.pglaf.org

Re: [gutvol-d] Technical Collection for Consideration.
by Jonathan Ingram 18 May '05

18 May '05

--- rvijay07 <rvijay07(a)myway.com> wrote: > > One of the drawbacks of PG is that it is considered mainly a > fiction/literature type collection. In this regard it is good to add some > Technical Books. While the site you link to has some interesting content, I'd prefer to see PG remain primarily a repository of public domain material -- and this in no way stops us from increasing the amount of non-fiction texts. Indeed, there are many non-fiction texts going through DP at the moment, in many subject areas, from dictionaries to bell-ringing, cookery to history. Sadly the overly long length of modern copyright terms mean that we won't see a large influx of public domain computer programming material for a while. -- Jon Ingram __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com

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Re: [gutvol-d] Technical Collection for Consideration.
by rvijay07 18 May '05

18 May '05

There are Linux Books that are sold as HardCopy but the EBooks are free to distribute I believe. Also, since the other site is distributing these books without trouble, wouldn't it be safe to assume that these IT EBooks are also Public Domain ? If they can be verified to be Public Domain, then can't they be hosted here ? Thanks. Vijay --- On Wed 05/18, Jonathan Ingram < jonathan_ingram(a)yahoo.com > wrote: From: Jonathan Ingram [mailto: jonathan_ingram(a)yahoo.com] To: rvijay07(a)myway.com, gutvol-d(a)lists.pglaf.org Date: Wed, 18 May 2005 02:41:04 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: [gutvol-d] Technical Collection for Consideration. --- rvijay07 <rvijay07(a)myway.com> wrote: > > One of the drawbacks of PG is that it is considered mainly a > fiction/literature type collection. In this regard it is good to add some > Technical Books. While the site you link to has some interesting content, I'd prefer to see PG remain primarily a repository of public domain material -- and this in no way stops us from increasing the amount of non-fiction texts. Indeed, there are many non-fiction texts going through DP at the moment, in many subject areas, from dictionaries to bell-ringing, cookery to history. Sadly the overly long length of modern copyright terms mean that we won't see a large influx of public domain computer programming material for a while. -- Jon Ingram __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com _______________________________________________ No banners. No pop-ups. No kidding. Make My Way your home on the Web - http://www.myway.com

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RE: [gutvol-d] no, the problem is
by Doug Schroeder 18 May '05

18 May '05

bowerturkey: > there are some problems with the d.p. workflow > -- some rather glaring ones, when you consider > how many people are laboring under those flows, Key issue, people are working. You (and I) are not. Go away or actually release that software you threatened to do some 2-3 years ago. Since I don't contribute, I usually keep my mouth closed. Oh, what's your USER ID over at DP, we could ruin a forum over there and you could brag about how many pages you proof. Greg, Enough already. Just kick his arse out of here.

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re: [gutvol-d] FREE CD/DVD info. request.
by Bowerbird＠aol.com 18 May '05

18 May '05

on the d.v.d. i got, the links to the e-texts from the author/title .html indexes fail... i didn't even try to figure out why, because i can manage, but if this is a problem that everyone has, it probably should be fixed... -bowerbird

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FREE CD/DVD info. request.
by rvijay07 18 May '05

18 May '05

Just out of curiosity. How many FREE CDs/DVDs are requested every day/week at PG on average ? Any other related info. welcome. Thanks. Vijay _______________________________________________ No banners. No pop-ups. No kidding. Make My Way your home on the Web - http://www.myway.com

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Preliminary PGvol Wiki Thread.
by rvijay07 18 May '05

18 May '05

Please share all the general/basic knowledge that newbie volunteers can/must learn so that they get a head start in regards to the PG. Hopefully, this will also avoid repeat questions here. Once we have a page or two of this info., this can either be E-mailed to newbies who join here or perhaps be hosted somewhere. Vijay _______________________________________________ No banners. No pop-ups. No kidding. Make My Way your home on the Web - http://www.myway.com

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Last Book.
by rvijay07 18 May '05

18 May '05

What is the last book you read at PG ? Hopefully, this discussion will be a learning experience for all. Thanks. Vijay _______________________________________________ No banners. No pop-ups. No kidding. Make My Way your home on the Web - http://www.myway.com

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Re: [gutvol-d] Severe Resistance to EBooks.
by Bowerbird＠aol.com 18 May '05

18 May '05

vijay said: > Share your comments/experiences in this regard. our experiences over decades are the same as yours in the last ten days. so at this point, there remains little motivation for us to rehash them. all of the problems are well-known, and most are out of our control... so we go on, and wait for the world to change, as we know that it will, since we see that the youngsters are very different from their parents. and we make wishes that the oldsters die sooner rather than later... ;+) we hope for a return to the early days of the personal computer revolution, when the technology was disruptive in nature and changing life every day; but alas, that made some of the principals filthy rich and now they seem to want to do what the privileged have always done, resist and retard progress that threatens to have even any slight negative impact on their pursestrings. so even though we hope for some radical transformation, we are realistic, and realize that the change is far more likely to come much more gradually. finally, we hope that e-books catch on in china -- how can they not? -- because nothing mobilizes american capitalists like a communist threat. one more note, i guess. i wish we could "leap-frog" new eyes like yours, to help them focus past what we _already_ know, and on into the future... -bowerbird

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An Error, eye strain, solution.
by rvijay07 17 May '05

17 May '05

Dave Fawthrop <dave hyphenologist co uk> wrote: >> Do you need VDU Glasses? http://tinyurl.com/c3lh, Thanks for the great link, I shared this with some of my friends. My eye strain was more due to using smaller fonts. Larger fonts are more comfortable to read. Vijay _______________________________________________ No banners. No pop-ups. No kidding. Make My Way your home on the Web - http://www.myway.com

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Re: [gutvol-d] PGTEI and prposed future-tech-developments group/forum (was "Dear
by Joshua Hutchinson 17 May '05

17 May '05

----- Original Message ----- From: "Robert Shimmin" <shimmin(a)uiuc.edu> > > > TEI -> PDF: this one has the most "weirdness" > > If I recall correctly, this has been done up to now by converting TEI to TeX > (a good feature, in any case), and then using other people's software to do > TeX to PDF. For my edification, do the troubles show up in the conversion to > TeX, or the second conversion to PDF? > Yes, that is exactly how the process goes (Marcello can probably dig into the nitty-gritty better than I). The problem is that a table marked up like this: <table colums="1"> <row> <cell>A REALLY REALLY REALLY REALLY REALLY REALLYREALLY LONG TEXT STRING</cell> </row> </table> The TEI -> HTML just creates a normal HTML table and the browser will wrap the cell to the width it has to work with. The TEI -> Text will line wrap pretty well on its own, too (I believe the tbl processor in groff handles this?) The TEI -> PDF will just run the table off the edge of the page. You can add a rend attribute to the table with some LaTeX table commands that will help, but the conversion doesn't try to line wrap automatically. Also, the LaTeX table formatting requires you to put the width that you want the cell to be in the table, which requires you to do a lot more thinking and preparing on each table. For some of the monster table texts in DP, this exercise would quickly make a grown man cry with boredom and frustration. Josh

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