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Volunteer Needs Help with Doctoral Survey
by Ellen V. Hage 01 Aug '05

01 Aug '05

Hello, My name is Ellen V. Hage and I am doing my dissertation on e-book technology usage and self-efficacy. I am off my target of needed participants. Hopefully you all can help be out. The survey has only 28 questions and should take no more than 5 minutes to complete. The survey is a blind survey and doesn't collect any confidential information. The URL is: http://www.zoomerang.com/survey.zgi?p=WEB224GUJSUZZE Thanks, again, Ellen V. Hage

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re: [gutvol-d] In-Reply-to
by Bowerbird＠aol.com 29 Jul '05

29 Jul '05

anne said: > I use AOL and I'm not having that kind of problem. well, you're using a different build of the a.o.l. client, on windows, not a mac, so it's apples and oranges... but nonetheless, i don't see an in-reply-to header on your post either, so yes, the problem _is_ there... -bowerbird

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Re: [gutvol-d] In-Reply-to
by Gutenberg9443＠aol.com 29 Jul '05

29 Jul '05

In a message dated 7/27/2005 4:42:55 PM Mountain Daylight Time, Bowerbird(a)aol.com writes: so it looks like it really is a.o.l. (it's not just convenient to blame them; it's usually the correct attribution to make.) I use AOL and I'm not having that kind of problem. Anne Do you like to breathe? Then save the trees! Begin a personal relationship with an ebook TODAY!

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banana-cream -- demo program for scan-sets
by Bowerbird＠aol.com 28 Jul '05

28 Jul '05

greg asked for examples... so i've got myself a little program here which displays the images in a scan-set, with an edit-field alongside for the text... you can thumb through the scan-pages by clicking buttons or using the cursor-keys... you can view the text for just one page or load in the text for the entire book... (it will auto-scroll to the appropriate point as you summon up each new page-scan.) for this demo version, which i will upload as soon as greg gives me the information, i used jon noring's "my antonia" example... the app looks in its folder (or "directory", for you p.c. people) for the image-file and displays it if it finds it there. if it doesn't, it downloads it from the openreader site, and then displays it. very fast on fat pipes, maybe not so fast if you're still on dial-up... if you want, you can download all the images in one fell swoop while you're out to lunch or taking a nap. (or overnight with a modem.) once the file for a page is downloaded once, it's saved on your machine for your later use... (or, if you want, you can download the images in the single .zip file on the openreader site, and then unzip them yourself into the folder where you have placed this demo-program.) this demo -- which i dubbed "banana-cream" -- is a cut-down version of my proofing program which you might remember is called "pudding". i threw in some pudding-style features for y'all, for the fun of it. the app finds and highlights quoted passages. some people try to tell you that you should use "curly" quotes in your text. what a pain in the rear! have the viewer-app do that conversion automatically for the reader -- if the reader requests it. that's a lot easier. after all, converting quotes isn't rocket-science; most word-processors can do the job nowadays. (except far too many of them make mistakes! i feel my routine does a better job. but i have included it in this program because if it _does_ make any mistakes, i expect that you'll tell me, and then i can improve the logic as necessary.) i also threw in a text-to-speech thing, because i believe it's a neat way for you to do proofing. (but sorry, that feature won't work on linux.) there is also a powerful "find" capability, so you can view all the occurrences of the search term, and then click to the specific one you want to, or step through them one-by-one to see 'em all... adjustable text-size. full-screen no-menu feature. history capability to track back through your trail. and header-finding to create a table-of-contents that it installs in a menu on the menu-bar for you, plus the ability to jump through the chapter-titles. let me think, i know i put something else in there. oh yeah, a simple-but-powerful _linking_ capability, so the table of contents, for instance, becomes live. this demo-app is also a cut-down version of "give", my viewer-program, where this linking capability is far more full-featured. but i thought you might like a taste, a taste of banana-cream pie... i don't feel like releasing "pudding" quite yet, but i _will_ take feature-requests for "banana-cream". if y'all can put together a list of specifications that impresses me, i'll be happy to implement them and we can go from there. on the other hand, if you're not interested, then i'll spend my time elsewhere... -bowerbird

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Re: Scans and Texts
by Juhana Sadeharju 28 Jul '05

28 Jul '05

>From: David Starner <prosfilaes(a)gmail.com> > >That's what the OCR program likes. Distributed Proofreaders are very >likely to continue producing B&W 300 dpi scans in most cases for the >near future. I thought we wanted additionally in future to produce the image versions of the books. If so, the 16 level 100-200 dpi versions should be made from non-B&W scans. Note that 1-bit 600 dpi images may be generated later from 8-bit 200-300 dpi images. I suggest to scan, e.g., with 8-bit 300 dpi and immediately convert both to 1-bit 600 dpi and to 4-bit 150 dpi if original scans are too much. >> * The original print is more pleasant to read than the ascii >> or html text. > >In some cases, but that generally indicates you're handling it wrong. I have no effect on how the computer displays the ascii and html texts. >> * Math text is better in its original print than in the TeX or >> math-html equivalent. > >Typewritten text with equations added in in pen is better than TeX? I >think there's good reasons why Knuth made TeX. I have scanned math books printed at 1890. The default TeX font and layout looks awful compared to the books. Equations added with pen seems to have been a bad trend between 1960-1990 when publishers, such as Springer, started accepting the author-provided camera-ready prints. The authors at worst did use manual typeset machine. However, a few authors used Troff and TeX without the pen inked equations. Juhana -- http://music.columbia.edu/mailman/listinfo/linux-graphics-dev for developers of open source graphics software

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Re: [gutvol-d] In-Reply-to
by Bowerbird＠aol.com 27 Jul '05

27 Jul '05

nope. that didn't work either. so it looks like it really is a.o.l. (it's not just convenient to blame them; it's usually the correct attribution to make.) :+) i'll see if i can dig up any information on this. i'll also try some experiments to see if any of those give the header you want whenever i post some actual messages. but the a.o.l. approach is to not give us idiots any rope with which to hang ourselves, so i might be out of luck in regard to providing any solution... on the positive side, it sure makes it easy to filter out my posts, don't you think? ;+) -bowerbird

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Re: [gutvol-d] In-Reply-to
by Bowerbird＠aol.com 27 Jul '05

27 Jul '05

nope. that didn't work. perhaps it's because i "change" the subject-line by replacing the uppercase "re:" with a lowercase one? so i didn't do that on this e-mail. let's see if this works. -bowerbird p.s. so, did they get that fuel-gauge fixed on the shuttle? or did they just decide to go ahead with it not working right? maybe they figured since there are no filling stations anyway, it really didn't matter if the gauge worked correctly or not...

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re: [gutvol-d] In-Reply-to
by Bowerbird＠aol.com 27 Jul '05

27 Jul '05

brett said: > Do you know why you don't have > an in-reply-to header in your list emails? nope. could be because a.o.l. didn't implement thunderbird correctly. i always find that blaming a.o.l. is the easiest explanation. :+) but sometimes i am wont to compose a new e-mail -- instead of hitting "reply" -- which could cause that. so this is an experiment where i hit "reply all" instead; let's see if doing it that way will have the desired effect. i don't mind much if my posts appear outside of a thread. most threads here are ones i don't want to be in anyway. ;+) but if this works, and it will make someone's experience here better, i'll be happy to make sure to do it this way. -bowerbird p.s. just so there is some meat in this post, let me say that i think it is rude to flood people's e-mailboxes with _dozens_ of posts on a weekend, when many people don't check e-mail, if you are then going to sit silent for the next two or three days. and it's not only rude, it's ineffective, because most people will just delete all the posts without reading them, which fractures the attention-span of the list. so it effectively sabotages a list. not saying that was anyone's _intention_. but it has that effect.

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re: [gutvol-d] RFC: Posting Page Scans in DJVU Format
by Bowerbird＠aol.com 27 Jul '05

27 Jul '05

jon said: > This example illustrates that as we begin > considering how the PG collection can > become more useful to more users in the future, > PG will have to require the digital texts to be > more carefully and strictly structured thankfully, that does _not_ require heavy markup, just a consistent dedication to an intelligent design. -bowerbird

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re: [gutvol-d] 600 dpi vs. 300 dpi for text (a quickie visual experiment)
by Bowerbird＠aol.com 26 Jul '05

26 Jul '05

jon said: > Do any of the above mentioned projects have public discussion forums > that match gutvol-d and the DP forums for volume and diversity of topics? it depends on where i'm sending posts at any given time. and not much else. -bowerbird

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