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Re: !@!Re: [gutvol-d] [Fwd: Folio files]
by Joshua Hutchinson 15 Dec '04

15 Dec '04

----- Original Message ----- From: "Michael Hart" <hart(a)pglaf.org> > > > > So any chance we can convert this file to a text file, make that the main > > entry and move the .nfo file to the OLD subdirectory? > > > > Josh > > Please stop trying to rewrite history. . . . > > This should be kept as a straighforward example > of what can and DOES happen with proprietary formats. > > Sorry. Gotta call bullshit on this one. Keeping the file in the OLD subdirectory maintains the history for those that wish to find it, while allowing better usability for those folks that simply want to read this particular work. How frustrating do you think people would be if they went to their local library, found a book in the catalog that they wanted, but the only place they are allowed to access the book is in a backroom that is pitch black. Yeah, they have the book, but it is completely useless to the reader. So, yeah, we have the book in PG... but it is completely useless to you. /nelson-voice-from-The-Simpsons HA HA /end-nelson-voice-from-The-Simpsons Josh

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Re: [ebook-community] Google Question for Michael Hart
by Michael Hart 15 Dec '04

15 Dec '04

On Tue, 14 Dec 2004, Roy Lewis wrote: > > What is Michael Hart's take on the latest from Google? I wonder how > this will impact Project Gutenberg? Will this do what you have been > trying to do but with a LOTS of MONEY behind it? > > Roy Lewis > Garland, TX Today is the day I have to write and send the Project Gutenberg Weekly Newsletter, and I have only 2:20 to the deadline, so I hope you will allow me to come back to answer that in a bit, but if you have a specific question I hope I can answer right away. However, I think you will find that these billion dollar giants don't actually have anything in mind that would be definable as an eBook as the term has been being use. . .i.e. you can't keep it, you can't print it, you can't cut and paste quotations that are more than a "snippet," as they call it, you can't make your own concordance, index, edition, or carry a million dollars of retail value books with you on a DVD or two. In addition, I guarantee that Project Gutenberg will be the first to offer such a "Million Dollar DVD" of eBooks, and will be the first to present a collection of 50,000 eBooks, and, most liklely will be the first to offer 100,000 eBooks for any kind of service, but certainly for free download. As for getting into the millions, I'm going to wait until we're approaching 100,000 to focus all that tightly on getting into 7 figures of eBooks. BTW, they said 15 million eBooks. . .and I'm not sure they HAVE 15 million eBooks that they can legally use in the worldwide service they announced yesterday. I'd certainly be willing to bet dinner on it! More later, Thanks!!! So Nice To Hear From You! Happy Holidays!!! Michael Give FreeBooks!!! In 39 Languages!!! As of December 12, 2004 ~14,683 FreeBooks at: ~317 to go to 15,000 http://www.gutenberg.org http://www.gutenberg.net We are ~96% of the way from 10,000 to 15,000. Now even more PG eBooks In 104 Languages!!! http://gutenberg.cc http://gutenberg.us Michael S. Hart <hart(a)pobox.com> Project Gutenberg Executive Coordinator^M "*Internet User ~#100*" If you do not receive a prompt reply, please resend, keep resending.

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[Fwd: Re: [webgroup] ibib's downtime/server resore]
by Marcello Perathoner 15 Dec '04

15 Dec '04

-------- Original Message -------- Subject: Re: [webgroup] ibib's downtime/server resore Date: Tue, 14 Dec 2004 19:49:42 -0500 (EST) From: Paul Jones <pjones(a)metalab.unc.edu> CC: webgroup(a)lists.ibiblio.org this morning we lost the fileserver for the first time in 2 years of continuous uptime. it took until nearly 4 o'clock EST USA to get us back, but we're back now and the response time is fine for pages and even for my mysql driven blog. -- Marcello Perathoner webmaster(a)gutenberg.org

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[Fwd: Folio files]
by Marcello Perathoner 15 Dec '04

15 Dec '04

-------- Original Message -------- Subject: Folio files Date: Sat, 11 Dec 2004 22:45:42 -0000 From: Charles Crosby <charlesjcrosby(a)btinternet.com> To: <webmaster(a)gutenberg.org> I have downloaded a folio version of Gibbon's 'Decline and Fall...' What program do I need to read it? Hoping you can be of assistance, Charles Crosby. -- Marcello Perathoner webmaster(a)gutenberg.org

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Re: [gutvol-d] Google Partners with Oxford, Harvard & Others to Digitize Libraries
by Greg Newby 14 Dec '04

14 Dec '04

Here's an extract from http://searchenginewatch.com/searchday/article.php/3447411 '"In-copyright" books that are in these collections will have basic bibliographic information available but the full text will not be accessible. Smith told us that out-of copyright material will be available in full text, though printing will be disabled when viewing this content.' This doesn't sound like competition to PG, to me, and in fact the second sentence above means they won't even meet my definition of an eBook. Not to say that these things aren't worthwhile. After all, *we* could generate eBooks from scans etc. made available for public domain content. This could be very helpful. As to "why," when a few PG'ers met with Google last year, they stressed that from their point of view, any growth in online content is good for them. More stuff "out there" means there's more for them to find. So, this is partially altruistic, but also partially for the public good. It was interesting to see that UC Berkeley, UIUC and Yale were not among the libraries chosen (those are the 2-4th largest academic collections in the US, after Harvard). -- Greg

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[Fwd: [ibiblio-announce] ibiblio and all sites offline]
by Marcello Perathoner 14 Dec '04

14 Dec '04

-------- Original Message -------- Subject: [ibiblio-announce] ibiblio and all sites offline Date: Tue, 14 Dec 2004 11:47:00 -0500 From: John Reuning <john(a)metalab.unc.edu> Reply-To: help(a)ibiblio.org To: ibiblio-announce(a)lists.ibiblio.org One of the core file servers crashed this morning. All web and ftp services will be offline until this system has been restored. -jrr _______________________________________________ ibiblio-announce mailing list ibiblio-announce(a)lists.ibiblio.org http://lists.ibiblio.org/mailman/listinfo/ibiblio-announce -- Marcello Perathoner webmaster(a)gutenberg.org

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Google On-Line Library
by Dennis McCarthy 14 Dec '04

14 Dec '04

FYI, Here is an article about Google on-line library project: http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,141433,00.html "The ambitious initiative announced late Monday gives Mountain View, Calif.-based Google the right to index material from the New York Public Library as well as libraries at four universities--Harvard, Stanford, Michigan and Oxford in England." Not sure what their profit angle is. Supposedly public domain works will be free to access. Maybe they get a cut of copyrighted books viewed via this service. --------------------------- Dennis McCarthy nihil_obstat(a)mindspring.com

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Re: Induce law
by bill jenness 12 Dec '04

12 Dec '04

Wouldn't that also include guns, fast cars and money? The idea is patently ridiculous.

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Induce law
by Norm Wolcott 11 Dec '04

11 Dec '04

The people who brought you Sonny Bono now are giving you the Induce Law. Prohibitting the manufacture or sale of any device which might be "reasonably" assumed to "induce" anyone into violating any law or regulation. A VCR is a good example. nwolcott2(a)post.harvard.edu Friar Wolcott, Gutenberg Abbey, Sherwood Forrest

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Re: [gutvol-d] Induce law
by Gutenberg9443＠aol.com 11 Dec '04

11 Dec '04

In a message dated 12/11/2004 8:27:09 AM Mountain Standard Time, nwolcott2(a)kreative.net writes: >>Prohibitting the manufacture or sale of any device >>which might be "reasonably" assumed to "induce" >>anyone into violating any law or regulation. A VCR is a >>good example. Passed or proposed? In what legislative body? It seems to me that would hit photocopiers, scanners, tape recorders, large and/or external hard drives, and . . . the list could go on quite a while longer. This is absurd. Anne Anne

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