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[etext04|etext05]/index.html missing?
by John Hagerson 21 Nov '04

21 Nov '04

I am using wget to download books from www.gutenberg.org. The process is stuck on etext04 in what appears to be a futile effort to download index.html. The file must have been there last night, because I didn't have this problem. Could the appropriate person please look into this? Thank you very much.

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Re: PG catalog - MARC -- problem with encoding for Audio Books
by Steve Thomas 21 Nov '04

21 Nov '04

Brad Collins wrote: > Steve/ > > I tried to send this to the list but it bounced but you will likely > be about the only person interested so here it is... Surely that's not true! I'm sure many on this list are just thrilled by discussions about MARC. ;-) > > Steve Thomas <stephen.thomas(a)adelaide.edu.au> writes: > > >>Feedback welcomed. > > > First of all, your script taught me a lot about both MARC and > Perl. VERY GOOD WORK! Thanks. > > I have been working the last few days on porting your script to elisp > and I noticed the following problem with Audio Book records: > > RDF > > <pgterms:etext rdf:ID="etext9737"> > <dc:publisher>&pg;</dc:publisher> > <dc:title rdf:parseType="Literal">The Seven Poor Travellers</dc:title> > <dc:creator>Dickens, Charles (1812-1870)</dc:creator> > <dc:language>en</dc:language> > <dc:type>Audio Book, computer-generated</dc:type> > <dc:created>2006-01-01</dc:created> > <dc:rights>Copyrighted work. See license inside work.</dc:rights> > </pgterms:etext> > > MARC > > LDR 00560cam 22001573a 4500 > 005 20041111153800.0 > 008 060101s2006||||xxu|||||s|||||000 f eng d > 100 1 |aDickens, Charles,|d1812-1870 > 245 14|aThe Seven Poor Travellers |h[electronic resource] /|cby Charles Dickens > 260 |bProject Gutenberg Literary Archive Foundation,|c2006 > 500 |aProject Gutenberg > 506 |aFreely available. > 516 |aElectronic text > 830 0|aProject Gutenberg|v9737 > 856 40|uhttp://www.gutenberg.org/etext/9737 > 856 42|uhttp://www.gutenberg.org/license|zLicense First, I see you are using a prior version of the script/output. The latest version now produces this: LDR 00626cam a22002053a 4500 000 9737 003 PGUSA 005 20041115162032.0 008 060101s2006||||xxu|||||s|||||000 | eng d 040 |aPGUSA|beng 042 |adc 100 1 |aDickens, Charles,|d1812-1870 245 14|aThe Seven Poor Travellers |h[electronic resource] /|cby Charles Dickens 260 |bProject Gutenberg,|c2006 500 |aProject Gutenberg 506 |aFreely available. 516 |acomputer-generated Audio Book 830 0|aProject Gutenberg|v9737 856 40|uhttp://www.gutenberg.org/etext/9737 856 42|uhttp://www.gutenberg.org/license|3Rights I can see immediately that I need to add soemthing for the copyrighted works. Probably an addition to the 506 note. > > I am far from being fluent in MARC, but from what I've seen I would > tend to say that the value for the 245 h subfield should be `sound > recording' and I am still not sure about the 516 field for electronic > file types. You'll see that the 516 now reflects what's in the PG catalog. The 245 h subfield value used is a generic term, for the medium of the item, and this is commonly used for any kind of electronic resource. The term 'sound recording' is used for things like LP (and I guess CD) records. The major intent is to distinguish this item from other media, e.g. paper. > > Does MARC have a list of defined enumerated values for these > subfields? > > I have a few other questions: > > I'm also still not clear on why a 500 field is needed. The 500 field is a > general note, so why would a note with a value of `Project Gutenberg' > be helpful? Not sure about this one. But using the 830 field (Series statement) requires either a 490 or 500 (general note). So I'm just following the MARC spec. here. Some things I just don't ask about. ;-) > > Second, I would suggest making the 260 field a bit more ISBD-ish. > > 260 |a-Urbana: |bProject Gutenberg, |c2006. > > or at least: > > 260 |aUrbana, |bProject Gutenberg, |c2006. Yes. You'll see I'm now using just 'Project Gutenberg' for the publisher name -- after coment from Greg. The a subfield can be used for place of publication, but ... I'm not sure what that is. Is it still Urbana (I thought PG had long since moved from there)? Is it the business address of PGLAF? Is it the home town of ibiblio? In the end, it seemed easiest to omit that. > > Which leads us to the question of how should the publisher name be > formated? > > In a sense, each PG; Aussie, Germany, EU, Canada etc would have a > different city they were published in, located in the country they > were from. Even if, (as they are in this case) seperate legal > entities the city should be enough to identify PG USA. There should > be a publisher authority record this points to. How should this be > handled? The catalog only includes items from "PGUSA". If other countries wanted to use the script to build MARC for their collections, then we can easily modify the script to change the publisher name. Thanks for the feedback! Steve -- Stephen Thomas, Senior Systems Analyst, University of Adelaide Library UNIVERSITY OF ADELAIDE SA 5005 AUSTRALIA Phone: +61 8 830 35190 Fax: +61 8 830 34369 Email: stephen.thomas(a)adelaide.edu.au URL: http://staff.library.adelaide.edu.au/~sthomas/ CRICOS Provider Number 00123M ----------------------------------------------------------- This email message is intended only for the addressee(s) and contains information that may be confidential and/or copyright. If you are not the intended recipient please notify the sender by reply email and immediately delete this email. Use, disclosure or reproduction of this email by anyone other than the intended recipient(s) is strictly prohibited. No representation is made that this email or any attachments are free of viruses. Virus scanning is recommended and is the responsibility of the recipient.

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Problems running W3 validator from XP
by John Hagerson 20 Nov '04

20 Nov '04

My efforts to use the W3 HTML validator fail every time because the MIME type is text. In the past, I was able to validate files. Other than chucking my operating system, do you have any suggestions as to how I can address this problem? Thank you very much.

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documenting etexts
by Gutenberg9443＠aol.com 20 Nov '04

20 Nov '04

Since this topic came up, I have given it a lot of thought. I think I have the answer. We do not have to know the specific page number if we're quoting the Bible or Shakespeare. That can be carried over to other texts as well. (I hope my underlining shows up in all email.) Bib entry: Richardson, Samuel. Pamela, or Virtue Rewarded. orig. pub. 1740-1741. n.p.: Project Gutenberg, n.d. footnote or endnote: Richardson. Pamela. Section IV, Letter VII, par. 4. Would not this serve most purposes? Please discuss this WITHOUT FLAMING. The world has flames enough without them showing up here. Anne

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TEI Header Spec (rough draft)
by Joshua Hutchinson 20 Nov '04

20 Nov '04

Attached at the bottom is rough draft of a teiHeader spec. I basically wrote it as an example teiHeader with comments scattered all over to explain things. Since I'm not a cataloging expert (heck, I'm don't even qualify as a catalog neophyte), I'm relying heavily on what is in Marcello's documentation and the original TEI documentation. I basically just picked out stuff that looked important and relevant based on stuff I've done before. I'm sure I've missed some things. Please take a look through this and point out items that aren't covered and you think should be. Also, if anything is unclear, let me know. I'll try to explain it better (and update the explanation in the spec). Remember, the goal is to be able to grab information from the teiHeader in each etext to generate cataloging information (this ties in nicely with the ongoing MARC discussions around here). Josh PS The next document will be the actual markup spec rough draft. This one will probably be delayed until after the US Thanksgiving holidays (I don't think well with 5 pounds of turkey digesting in my tummy!)

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Re: [gutvol-d] Re: PG catalog - MARC
by D. Starner 20 Nov '04

20 Nov '04

"Brad Collins" writes: > I used Series because The Early English Text Society publications are > cataloged as a series and this was the closest thing I have found to > the PG etext numbers. > > This is from the LOC: > > Series: Early English Text Society (Series). Original series ; 10, [etc.] > > 830 _0 |a Early English Text Society (Series). |p Original series ; |v 10, [etc.] So what happens when we do the EETS books? There's one in the PPVing queue at DP, and more being proofed and waiting for PPers. -- ___________________________________________________________ Sign-up for Ads Free at Mail.com http://promo.mail.com/adsfreejump.htm

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LoC Public Domain Newspaper Archive
by Holden McGroin 18 Nov '04

18 Nov '04

Hi all! CNN is reporting that the U.S. Library of Congress is trying to digitize and make available over the web 30 million pages from public domain newspapers :-) http://www.cnn.com/2004/TECH/internet/11/17/oldnewspapers.ap/index.html Cheers, Holden

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Re: [gutvol-d] PG content on Guntella? Please test.
by Joshua Hutchinson 17 Nov '04

17 Nov '04

There was some effort a while back to support P2P. *searching* Here is the PG webpage: http://www.gutenberg.org/howto/p2p-howto I never played with it to tell you if it worked at all (I'm at work now and can't test it), but it looks like we've been seeding the p2p networks already. Josh ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Hagerson" <j.hagerson(a)comcast.net> To: "'Project Gutenberg Volunteer Discussion'" <gutvol-d(a)lists.pglaf.org> Subject: [gutvol-d] PG content on Guntella? Please test. Date: Wed, 17 Nov 2004 13:06:24 -0600 > > I believe I'm set up to provide ZIP and HTML files of PG content published > prior to 13-NOV-2004 through the Gnutella network. > > If anyone would care to test this hypothesis and tell me if you can > successfully access a file, I would like to know. > > Thank you very much. > > John Hagerson (my IP address is 24.14.124.xxx to know if the file came from > me) > > > _______________________________________________ > gutvol-d mailing list > gutvol-d(a)lists.pglaf.org > http://lists.pglaf.org/listinfo.cgi/gutvol-d >

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PG content on Guntella? Please test.
by John Hagerson 17 Nov '04

17 Nov '04

I believe I'm set up to provide ZIP and HTML files of PG content published prior to 13-NOV-2004 through the Gnutella network. If anyone would care to test this hypothesis and tell me if you can successfully access a file, I would like to know. Thank you very much. John Hagerson (my IP address is 24.14.124.xxx to know if the file came from me)

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Re: [gutvol-d] future of ebooks + books to take to bed
by Gutenberg9443＠aol.com 16 Nov '04

16 Nov '04

In a message dated 11/15/2004 5:10:38 PM Mountain Standard Time, stephen.thomas(a)adelaide.edu.au writes: So perhaps we should start referring to "The Project Gutenberg Library" instead of simply "Project Gutenberg"? I usually describe it as the world's free public library. Of course, I meant that I have to send the kids to a dead tree library. You're quite right. Anne

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