Re: 14.8 million ipads sold (in 9 months) during 2010
michael said:
I think I sent the messages just to bowerbird
ok, could've been.
the site I was reading for iPad data, numbers, descriptions, etc., was not good....
also coulda been...
When I got better data, it was more obvious-- but since I had never even seen an iPad then, I had no other data to work with, and Apple, IRRC wasn't saying much in the early days.
that's correct, to a large degree. apple _did_ make an announcement right off, on april 3rd, that they'd already sold 300,000, but that included pre-orders and channel sales.
http://www.apple.com/pr/library/2010/04/05ipad.html http://www.apple.com/pr/library/2010/04/
and right at the time of our bet, apple released its second-quarter numbers, but it did _not_ comment on the number of ipads sold, which _might_ have led some observers to cast doubt.
http://www.apple.com/pr/library/2010/04/20results.html http://www.apple.com/pr/library/2010/04/20ipad.html
so yeah, there was a lot of rampant speculation... but shortly thereafter, on may 3rd, apple said that it had sold one million ipads, in 28 days...
http://www.apple.com/pr/library/2010/05/03ipad.html http://www.apple.com/pr/library/2010/05/
and then, again, on may 31st, apple reported that it had already sold its second million ipads.
so yeah, like you say, michael, once we received that data, the nature of the phenomenon became clear to everyone... but before then, everyone underestimated it, often to a degree that -- in hindsight -- is embarrassingly bad, as john gruber pointed out in an entry on his blog:
http://daringfireball.net/linked/2011/01/18/claim-chowder-ipad-sales-2010 -bowerbird
I don't know if anyone has mentioned it, but from just our own numbers on the Top 100 page at http://www/gutenber.org it is obviously that eBook reading devices were a big boom over the holidays, as I mentioned in today's Newsletter: quote Downloaded Books as of 2010-12-20 yesterday 124,464 last 7 days 852,824 last 30 days 3,657,360 Downloaded Books as of 2011-01-20 2011-01-20 139316 last 7 days 991641 last 30 days 4440451 I wonder if anyone is keeping track of these numbers well enough to have seen our first million eBook week? Greg Newby has been thinking about some way to save these for each day or at least email them to me, but it has not come to fruition yet, so if anyone can do it. . .!!! The same goes for our listing of "user agents" downloaded file numbers so we can try to figure out what devices are being used the most to download and, presumably, read our eBooks. . .so we can optimize for those readers. Apparently the last list we made indicated Kindles in big numbers that many had not expected, same for nook. Some of these "user agents" don't give good information-- sometimes on purpose--but it would be nice to have a kind of guess, at least. If you can help with either of these, please let us know! Thanks!!! Michael
On 01/21/2011 09:16 PM, Michael S. Hart wrote:
I don't know if anyone has mentioned it, but from just our own numbers on the Top 100 page at http://www/gutenber.org it is obviously that eBook reading devices were a big boom over the holidays, as I mentioned in today's Newsletter:
This page makes an even better point: http://www.gutenberg.org/browse/scores/pretty-pictures
I wonder if anyone is keeping track of these numbers well enough to have seen our first million eBook week?
date | downloads ------------+----------- 2010-12-22 | 124828 2010-12-23 | 122724 2010-12-24 | 117210 2010-12-25 | 192032 2010-12-26 | 200351 2010-12-27 | 182514 2010-12-28 | 168381 2010-12-29 | 159077 2010-12-30 | 150545 2010-12-31 | 127216 2011-01-01 | 139123 2011-01-02 | 153611 2011-01-03 | 146314 2011-01-04 | 143867 2011-01-05 | 149287 2011-01-06 | 147349 2011-01-07 | 144506 2011-01-08 | 140445 2011-01-09 | 152007 2011-01-10 | 145991 2011-01-11 | 138773 2011-01-12 | 143244 2011-01-13 | 140239 2011-01-14 | 139177 2011-01-15 | 135071 2011-01-16 | 140779 2011-01-17 | 141290 2011-01-18 | 146759 2011-01-19 | 143572 2011-01-20 | 138378 (30 rows) -- Marcello Perathoner webmaster@gutenberg.org
So, we peaked out right on Christmas Day and the day after!!! Marcello, is there any way you could rig up something to send me such lists as you have included below, daily, weekly, even monthly??? By the way, these six days totalled over a million:
2010-12-25 | 192032 2010-12-26 | 200351 2010-12-27 | 182514 2010-12-28 | 168381 2010-12-29 | 159077 2010-12-30 | 150545
On Fri, 21 Jan 2011, Marcello Perathoner wrote:
On 01/21/2011 09:16 PM, Michael S. Hart wrote:
I don't know if anyone has mentioned it, but from just our own numbers on the Top 100 page at http://www/gutenber.org it is obviously that eBook reading devices were a big boom over the holidays, as I mentioned in today's Newsletter:
This page makes an even better point:
http://www.gutenberg.org/browse/scores/pretty-pictures
I wonder if anyone is keeping track of these numbers well enough to have seen our first million eBook week?
date | downloads ------------+----------- 2010-12-22 | 124828 2010-12-23 | 122724 2010-12-24 | 117210 2010-12-25 | 192032 2010-12-26 | 200351 2010-12-27 | 182514 2010-12-28 | 168381 2010-12-29 | 159077 2010-12-30 | 150545 2010-12-31 | 127216 2011-01-01 | 139123 2011-01-02 | 153611 2011-01-03 | 146314 2011-01-04 | 143867 2011-01-05 | 149287 2011-01-06 | 147349 2011-01-07 | 144506 2011-01-08 | 140445 2011-01-09 | 152007 2011-01-10 | 145991 2011-01-11 | 138773 2011-01-12 | 143244 2011-01-13 | 140239 2011-01-14 | 139177 2011-01-15 | 135071 2011-01-16 | 140779 2011-01-17 | 141290 2011-01-18 | 146759 2011-01-19 | 143572 2011-01-20 | 138378 (30 rows)
Well then, let me try to make the point again that your actual honest-to-gawd downloaders have been trying to make for you: Namely, html OUGHT to be the default input submission format, with PG providing strong suggestions about how to write good HTML to well-support EPUB and MOBI, and that pg txt70 files have pretty much gone the way of the dodo, and ought to be supported as a file format that is computer-generated -- like EPUB and MOBI -- via a computer script from the submitted HTML. My Opinion Only -- except for the other 4,000,000 people who actually honest-to-gawd downloaded eBooks from your site over the last month. [And also those people who actually create books for PG] If BB or other want to muck around with pretty printers let them do so as a way to help themselves generate preliminary html which they can then finish cleaning up before they submit it to PG.
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