jim said:

OK, the typical pattern of experience I've had with the programs you have asked us to try in the past is that they appear to install "correctly" and then when I try to get them to work they literally hang forever, or take minutes to update the display.

huh? which program(s) would you be talking about? i'm quite sure the programs i release do not "hang", not under normal circumstances or ordinary usage. but if they _ever_ don't work as intended, i'd like to hear about it, so i can troubleshoot the cause. so if you can point me to any such program, _do_... otherwise, i'd say you must have my stuff confused. -bowerbird