Question about book pages
On a book information page, there are options for DropBox, Google Drive, and OneDrive - but no option to e-mail it? If I could choose to e-mail it (even if it only allowed the email I signed in with), I could forward (or send) it to the e-mail address of my Kindle. Tim Hare Tallahassee, FL
On Thu, Apr 09, 2020 at 01:41:44AM -0400, Tim Hare wrote:
On a book information page, there are options for DropBox, Google Drive, and OneDrive - but no option to e-mail it? If I could choose to e-mail it (even if it only allowed the email I signed in with), I could forward (or send) it to the e-mail address of my Kindle.
Hi, Tim. Project Gutenberg isn't in the business of running email servers for website users. We would need to set up outbound email processes (i.e., mail transfer agents) and related infrastructure. We would also then be transiting those email addresses through our servers, and therefore would need to add extra policy & procedure for privacy. Instead, all the files are simple to download, and then you can email them yourself. The "mobile reader" how-to on the front page of www.gutenberg.org has our other guidance for the various mobile readers and handheld devices. I hope this explanation is useful. We do know how to send email, but this particular use case is not in our chosen scope of operations. Best, Greg Dr. Gregory B. Newby Chief Executive and Director Project Gutenberg Literary Archive Foundation www.gutenberg.org A 501(c)(3) not-for-profit organization with EIN 64-6221541 gbnewby@pglaf.org
FWIW the "mobile reader how-to" looks to be about a "decade out of date." Jim Adcock ________________________________ From: gutvol-d <gutvol-d-bounces@lists.pglaf.org> on behalf of Greg Newby <gbnewby@pglaf.org> Sent: Thursday, April 9, 2020 5:49 AM To: Project Gutenberg Volunteer Discussion <gutvol-d@lists.pglaf.org> Subject: Re: [gutvol-d] Question about book pages On Thu, Apr 09, 2020 at 01:41:44AM -0400, Tim Hare wrote:
On a book information page, there are options for DropBox, Google Drive, and OneDrive - but no option to e-mail it? If I could choose to e-mail it (even if it only allowed the email I signed in with), I could forward (or send) it to the e-mail address of my Kindle.
Hi, Tim. Project Gutenberg isn't in the business of running email servers for website users. We would need to set up outbound email processes (i.e., mail transfer agents) and related infrastructure. We would also then be transiting those email addresses through our servers, and therefore would need to add extra policy & procedure for privacy. Instead, all the files are simple to download, and then you can email them yourself. The "mobile reader" how-to on the front page of https://nam11.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.gutenbe... has our other guidance for the various mobile readers and handheld devices. I hope this explanation is useful. We do know how to send email, but this particular use case is not in our chosen scope of operations. Best, Greg Dr. Gregory B. Newby Chief Executive and Director Project Gutenberg Literary Archive Foundation https://nam11.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.gutenbe... A 501(c)(3) not-for-profit organization with EIN 64-6221541 gbnewby@pglaf.org _______________________________________________ gutvol-d mailing list gutvol-d@lists.pglaf.org https://nam11.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Flists.pgla... Unsubscribe: https://nam11.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Flists.pgla...
On Thu, Apr 09, 2020 at 03:27:57PM +0000, James Adcock wrote:
FWIW the "mobile reader how-to" looks to be about a "decade out of date."
Jim Adcock
Edits/suggestions welcome. Please use this version: https://dev.gutenberg.org/help/mobile.html you can even make pull requests here: https://github.com/gbnewby/gutenbergsite/blob/master/site/help/mobile.md It reflects the knowledge we have gained. We gave up on trying to acquire each type of device, and also gave up on linking to particular external sites. Nobody was maintaining them. I respond to dozens of helpdesk inquiries per month about various ereaders, mobile devices, tablets, etc., and send them to that page. People usually seem to find what they need there. Or perhaps some find it so useless they don't follow up with me... but many send "thank you" notes, indicating they were able to figure it out. - Greg
________________________________ From: gutvol-d <gutvol-d-bounces@lists.pglaf.org> on behalf of Greg Newby <gbnewby@pglaf.org> Sent: Thursday, April 9, 2020 5:49 AM To: Project Gutenberg Volunteer Discussion <gutvol-d@lists.pglaf.org> Subject: Re: [gutvol-d] Question about book pages
On Thu, Apr 09, 2020 at 01:41:44AM -0400, Tim Hare wrote:
On a book information page, there are options for DropBox, Google Drive, and OneDrive - but no option to e-mail it? If I could choose to e-mail it (even if it only allowed the email I signed in with), I could forward (or send) it to the e-mail address of my Kindle.
Hi, Tim. Project Gutenberg isn't in the business of running email servers for website users. We would need to set up outbound email processes (i.e., mail transfer agents) and related infrastructure. We would also then be transiting those email addresses through our servers, and therefore would need to add extra policy & procedure for privacy.
Instead, all the files are simple to download, and then you can email them yourself. The "mobile reader" how-to on the front page of https://nam11.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.gutenbe... has our other guidance for the various mobile readers and handheld devices.
I hope this explanation is useful. We do know how to send email, but this particular use case is not in our chosen scope of operations.
Best, Greg
Dr. Gregory B. Newby Chief Executive and Director Project Gutenberg Literary Archive Foundation https://nam11.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.gutenbe... A 501(c)(3) not-for-profit organization with EIN 64-6221541 gbnewby@pglaf.org _______________________________________________ gutvol-d mailing list gutvol-d@lists.pglaf.org https://nam11.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Flists.pgla... Unsubscribe: https://nam11.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Flists.pgla...
To reinforce what Greg said, I've implemented the mail-to-kindle feature on Unglue.it, and its complexities are legion, though you might think it's easy. For example: https://unglue.it/work/383018/download/ <https://unglue.it/work/383018/download/> Gutenberg on Unglue.it: https://unglue.it/free/gtbg/ <https://unglue.it/free/gtbg/> The feature requires user registration, which is not low maintenance, and for PG, would require CAPTCHA. While the basic service is easy, preventing abuse is really hard. Registration spam is already a huge problem, but when you add a emailer loaded with attachments, you provide an attractive tool for account hijacking thieves. So in practice, you really have to lock down the mail-to-kindle service. A high profile MTA is not something you can run on your own, and the good ones aren't free. Eric Eric Hellman President, Free Ebook Foundation Founder, Unglue.it https://unglue.it/ https://go-to-hellman.blogspot.com/ twitter: @gluejar
On Apr 9, 2020, at 8:49 AM, Greg Newby <gbnewby@pglaf.org> wrote:
On Thu, Apr 09, 2020 at 01:41:44AM -0400, Tim Hare wrote:
On a book information page, there are options for DropBox, Google Drive, and OneDrive - but no option to e-mail it? If I could choose to e-mail it (even if it only allowed the email I signed in with), I could forward (or send) it to the e-mail address of my Kindle.
Hi, Tim. Project Gutenberg isn't in the business of running email servers for website users. We would need to set up outbound email processes (i.e., mail transfer agents) and related infrastructure. We would also then be transiting those email addresses through our servers, and therefore would need to add extra policy & procedure for privacy.
Instead, all the files are simple to download, and then you can email them yourself. The "mobile reader" how-to on the front page of www.gutenberg.org has our other guidance for the various mobile readers and handheld devices.
I hope this explanation is useful. We do know how to send email, but this particular use case is not in our chosen scope of operations.
Best, Greg
Dr. Gregory B. Newby Chief Executive and Director Project Gutenberg Literary Archive Foundation www.gutenberg.org A 501(c)(3) not-for-profit organization with EIN 64-6221541 gbnewby@pglaf.org _______________________________________________ gutvol-d mailing list gutvol-d@lists.pglaf.org https://lists.pglaf.org/mailman/listinfo/gutvol-d Unsubscribe: https://lists.pglaf.org/mailman/options/gutvol-d
Ah - I hadn't thought it through. I've been an e-mail administrator on a mainframe in a past life, with connections to others, and I _know_ these things, I just didn't recall them at the time I made the post . Thanks to everyone for their answers Tim Hare Tallahassee, FL From: gutvol-d [mailto:gutvol-d-bounces@lists.pglaf.org] On Behalf Of Eric Hellman Sent: Thursday, April 9, 2020 11:41 AM To: Greg Newby <gbnewby@pglaf.org>; Project Gutenberg Volunteer Discussion <gutvol-d@lists.pglaf.org> Subject: Re: [gutvol-d] Question about book pages To reinforce what Greg said, I've implemented the mail-to-kindle feature on Unglue.it, and its complexities are legion, though you might think it's easy. For example: https://unglue.it/work/383018/download/ Gutenberg on Unglue.it: https://unglue.it/free/gtbg/ The feature requires user registration, which is not low maintenance, and for PG, would require CAPTCHA. While the basic service is easy, preventing abuse is really hard. Registration spam is already a huge problem, but when you add a emailer loaded with attachments, you provide an attractive tool for account hijacking thieves. So in practice, you really have to lock down the mail-to-kindle service. A high profile MTA is not something you can run on your own, and the good ones aren't free. Eric Eric Hellman President, Free Ebook Foundation Founder, Unglue.it https://unglue.it/ https://go-to-hellman.blogspot.com/ twitter: @gluejar On Apr 9, 2020, at 8:49 AM, Greg Newby <gbnewby@pglaf.org <mailto:gbnewby@pglaf.org> > wrote: On Thu, Apr 09, 2020 at 01:41:44AM -0400, Tim Hare wrote: On a book information page, there are options for DropBox, Google Drive, and OneDrive - but no option to e-mail it? If I could choose to e-mail it (even if it only allowed the email I signed in with), I could forward (or send) it to the e-mail address of my Kindle. Hi, Tim. Project Gutenberg isn't in the business of running email servers for website users. We would need to set up outbound email processes (i.e., mail transfer agents) and related infrastructure. We would also then be transiting those email addresses through our servers, and therefore would need to add extra policy & procedure for privacy. Instead, all the files are simple to download, and then you can email them yourself. The "mobile reader" how-to on the front page of www.gutenberg.org <http://www.gutenberg.org> has our other guidance for the various mobile readers and handheld devices. I hope this explanation is useful. We do know how to send email, but this particular use case is not in our chosen scope of operations. Best, Greg Dr. Gregory B. Newby Chief Executive and Director Project Gutenberg Literary Archive Foundation www.gutenberg.org <http://www.gutenberg.org> A 501(c)(3) not-for-profit organization with EIN 64-6221541 gbnewby@pglaf.org <mailto:gbnewby@pglaf.org> _______________________________________________ gutvol-d mailing list gutvol-d@lists.pglaf.org <mailto:gutvol-d@lists.pglaf.org> https://lists.pglaf.org/mailman/listinfo/gutvol-d Unsubscribe: https://lists.pglaf.org/mailman/options/gutvol-d
https://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/19pdf/18-1150_7m58.pdf The Supreme Counts finds "The Law" is not subject to copyright, including annotations, in the case of Georgia's actions, which invited LexusNexus markups, and then tried to say that others couldn't use that law because it was then (supposedly) subject to copyright. Supreme Count finds that "it is all The Law" not subject to copyright. Not to imply that I know how much anyone can extend this line of Supreme Court conclusion to the really annoying issue of law publishers putting one or another of their forms of marks on "The Law" -- and then claiming that they own copyright on the entire results. But maybe Greg knows the answer ;-) Jim Adcock
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