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re: [gutvol-d] ok then, let's go to work (part 3)
by Bowerbird＠aol.com 09 Sep '05

09 Sep '05

joey said: > I just wanted to clarify, in case I missed something. > Did you actually just send out a 6 page email to say > "I think it's useful to retain linebreaks?" well, there _was_ more information there, but at least you got _something_ out of it! the question is whether you _act_ on it, now, or whether it takes many more 6-page e-mails. (this isn't the first time i've had to make the point.) at any rate, thanks for reading along, joey... -bowerbird

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re: [gutvol-d] CD/DVD ISO maker ready for testing
by Bowerbird＠aol.com 09 Sep '05

09 Sep '05

greg said: > Please visit this site to experiment with > a new system for making a custom CD or DVD ISO image: that is _very_ good news indeed... thanks and congratulations, craig... -bowerbird

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CD/DVD ISO maker ready for testing
by Greg Newby 09 Sep '05

09 Sep '05

Please see information below from a wonderful UAF student and ARSC student employee, Craig Stephenson. Craig has been working with me this past year, and has made very good progress on a dream of mine: automated easy creation of ISO files. Please visit this site to experiment with a new system for making a custom CD or DVD ISO image: http://snowy.arsc.alaska.edu/pgiso/ This system allows the user to create a collection of Project Gutenberg etexts through a web interface, in only the formats and languages desired, that can be made into an ISO file to be downloaded and written to CD or DVD. HTML index files are generated prior to ISO creation, to be included in the ISO, which list the title, author, language, and links to all of the files associated with each etext. Once you've submitted an ISO creation job, the job will be entered into a queue and you will be notified with an email including a URL upon completion. I think this system is self-explanatory for the most part. Please notify me with any questions, problems or suggestions, be they functional or cosmetic. There are probably a few things that could still use some polish. Feedback & discussion can to go the gutvol-d list, but please cc Craig on anything you'd like him to see: Craig Stephenson <cstephen(a)arsc.edu> -- Greg

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Re: [gutvol-d] What's happening at copy.pglaf.org?
by Wallace J.McLean 09 Sep '05

09 Sep '05

It's not an individual clearance problem. It's a technical site problem. I'm locked out of my copy.pglaf account, and unless and until I can break into it, I cannot resume projects that I had to leave in abeyance last spring, or start new ones.

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Re: [gutvol-d] techie help desperately needed
by Gutenberg9443＠aol.com 08 Sep '05

08 Sep '05

Thank you. I've sent an email to Microsoft to see whether it can supply me with the floppies. If that doesn't work . . . . Anne Do you like to breathe? Then save the trees! Begin a personal relationship with an ebook TODAY!

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techie help desperately needed
by Gutenberg9443＠aol.com 08 Sep '05

08 Sep '05

Help! I have bought, through eBay, a Gateway Solo, which is probably an antique. The screen works, a few things in setup work; but I was warned before purchasing it that it had no OS and no CD drive. It has an A drive. Theoretically it has a B drive which is now disabled, but I wouldn't know what to do with a B drive anyway. Now that I have unpacked it, I see that it was made to run Windows 95. By some miracle, I still have my Windows 95 software, but, of course, it's on a CD. Would it work to put the CD into my CD drive and copy it onto floppies? Would it work to put the CD into my CD drive and upload it into my portable drive, and then use the portable drive (which is USB) to download it onto the computer? If neither of these would work, what the hay--ell would work? If I can just get the OS on it, it will do exactly what I want it to do. Please answer directly to me. I REALLY don't want to see an argument get started over how to do it. Thanks. Anne

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SF author thinking of donating rights to PG
by Branko Collin 08 Sep '05

08 Sep '05

Hi, Have you read this interview (<http://www.thealienonline.net/ao_030.asp?tid=1&scid=6&iid=2920>) with science-fiction author Charles Stross? He would not like disappearing into obscurity, so just to be sure he keeps getting published, he is contemplating donating the rights to one of his books to Project Gutenberg once it has stopped making him money: "95% of authors go out of print for good within a couple of years of their death. I don't want to see my literary estate die with me. So I'm currently considering ways of ensuring that when there's no longer any income to be made from them, my copyrights will go somewhere like Project Gutenberg where they can be made available for free. Hopefully this is a long time off, though ..." -- branko collin collin(a)xs4all.nl

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Re: [gweekly] PT1 Weekly Project Gutenberg Newseltter
by Michael Dyck 07 Sep '05

07 Sep '05

Michael Hart wrote: > > ***PROJECT GUTENBERG HAS AVERAGED 500 eBOOKS PER MONTH SINCE JULY 4, 1971*** Uh, you mean "per year". -Michael Dyck

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Re: [gutvol-d] What's happening at copy.pglaf.org?
by Joshua Hutchinson 07 Sep '05

07 Sep '05

Well, there are only 2 people that do copyrights. Juliet has been on vacation quite a bit lately (she does the lion's share of copyright clearances) and Greg gets to the harder ones when he can. If your waiting on a copyright clearance, just be patient. If you're trying to raise a question ABOUT the copyright clearance, you'll probably get a faster response here. Josh ----- Original Message ----- From: "Wallace J.McLean" <ag737(a)freenet.carleton.ca> To: gutvol-d(a)lists.pglaf.org Subject: [gutvol-d] What's happening at copy.pglaf.org? Date: Wed, 07 Sep 2005 17:56:23 -0400 > > > > I've been trying for over two weeks to raise a signal. What gives? Why > isn't anyone returning my important email? I have a situation that > needs resolution, and until it's resolved, I can't pick up any of the > projects I had to leave off this spring. > > Where is everybody? > > > > > _______________________________________________ > gutvol-d mailing list > gutvol-d(a)lists.pglaf.org > http://lists.pglaf.org/listinfo.cgi/gutvol-d

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ok then, let's go to work (part 2)
by Bowerbird＠aol.com 07 Sep '05

07 Sep '05

today's lesson will bear on distributed proofreaders. as a reminder, this thread is about the scanset created by jon noring for his "my antonia" demo: > http://www.openreader.org/myantonia since the scans themselves are a fairly hefty download, at 31 megs, you can grab the 5-meg djvu version instead. that allows you to follow along if i refer to certain pages. i've uploaded the text-file that finereader v7 generates as o.c.r. output for "my antonia". this text-file can be downloaded from this u.r.l.: > http://snowy.arsc.alaska.edu/bowerbird/myantonia1.txt or, for those of you who would prefer a .zip version instead: > http://snowy.arsc.alaska.edu/bowerbird/myantonia1-txt.zip i will probably make some references to this text-file in coming days, so if any of you wanna follow along, you should download it and become familiar with it... (and it's only a 500k download, under 200k for the .zip.) one of the most immediate ways that online scans can facilitate the goals of project gutenberg is to make it possible for people to check the text against the scans themselves, to make sure that it's accurate. generally, this is what distributed proofreaders does -- present the text alongside the scan so it can be proofed. but the relevance of the parallel is much more specific; for that we need to delve deeper into the o.c.r. output... as i understand it, d.p. has recently switched to a new methodology, which separates proofing and formatting into separate rounds (with 2 rounds for each of them). part of the formatting involves "meta-formatting". (i think this is part of a formatting round, anyway, not a distinct and separate "round" of its own, but if i am wrong about any of this, i assume that one of the people from d.p. will step in and correct my error.) one aspect of the "meta-formatting" is a checklist that, among other things, indicates if a chapter-heading exists on a specific page. this checklist is used to ensure that the proper markup gets applied to that chapter-heading. that is, each page-scan is pushed out to human being, who then marks an item on a list if it has a header on it. (and other items on the list if it has those other features.) as i have indicated in the past, it is not difficult to write computerized routines to sniff out these section-headers; so it is simply a ridiculous waste of valuable resources to have human beings be making this determination instead. it is much smarter to use the computer to do the bulk of the work at the outset, and then have a human check it. appended is the output from such a routine i wrote in just a short time -- the program is under 50 lines long. if you check against the "my antonia" text, or the scans, you will see that this routine has successfully identified the pages in the book on which there is a section-break. it gives you the page-number, and does the best it can to tell you the actual _text_ of the header on that page. programs like these only take a few minutes to run, so it's easy to see this is a more efficient way to proceed, compared to having a person drudge through every page. i won't tell you exactly _how_ this program operates, because it would do you good to look at pages where there is a section-break, and come up with an answer. a hint for you is that there are _numerous_ indicators, any one of which is sufficient in this current example... you might remember that i have a 30-item checklist consisting of dimensions that are indicative of headers. how many of the 30 items can _you_ come up with? feel free to share your answers with the whole listserve. if enough people come up with enough of the indicators, i will share the source-code of the routine i wrote here... in fact, just for fun, i wrote another quick little routine, using another one of my 30 indicators, and that routine gave me the output that i appended in the second p.s. as you see, this routine produced excellent results too. i have said it before, but i'll repeat it again here now: headers are specifically _designed_ to draw attention, so it is easy to locate them, even in raw o.c.r. output. but heck, before you know it, you'll be smart enough to figure out how to determine _other_ structures as well... another item on the "meta-formatting" checklist is _footnotes_. there is only one footnote in this text, but based on that, how would you write a routine to identify any footnotes? how about block quotations? expressions in a foreign language? tables? lists? poems? all of the various aspects contained in plays? it's not hard. give it a try... -bowerbird p.s. here's that output... 3 Book I 9 II 21 Ill 31 IV 36 V 42 VI 48 VII 57 VIII 70 IX 80 For several weeks after my sleigh-ride, we 91 XI 96 XII 101 XIII 108 XIV 119 XV 131 XVI 137 XVII 145 XVIII 156 XIX 160 Book II 162 Book II 168 II 176 Ill 181 IV 193 V 197 VI 206 VII 220 VIII 225 IX 233 It was at the Vannis* tent that Antonia was 238 XI 244 XII 258 XIII 264 XIV 280 XV 288 Book III 290 Book III 298 II 307 Ill 315 IV 332 Book IV 334 Book IV 342 II 346 Ill 361 IV 366 Book V 368 Book V 399 II 415 Ill 441 COPYRIGHT, 1918, BY WILLA SIBKRT CATHKR 443 CONTENTS 445 INTRODUCTION p.p.s. and here's the output from the second routine. i've left a big hint in here about how this routine operates; can you figure it out? 1=2 2=2 3=24 4=30 8=29 9=26 20=20 21=26 30=28 31=25 35=29 36=26 41=23 42=26 47=17 48=25 56=7 57=26 69=17 70=26 79=6 80=25 90=16 91=26 95=18 96=25 100=13 101=26 107=10 108=27 118=23 119=26 130=8 131=25 135=28 136=22 137=26 138=30 144=25 145=26 155=26 156=26 159=27 160=2 161=3 162=2 163=24 164=30 167=27 168=26 175=16 176=25 180=24 181=26 192=13 193=26 196=12 197=26 205=25 206=26 219=10 220=27 224=29 225=25 232=18 233=25 237=22 238=26 243=19 244=26 257=6 258=26 263=17 264=26 279=28 280=26 288=21 289=3 290=2 291=24 297=18 298=26 306=28 307=26 314=29 315=26 331=29 332=17 333=3 334=2 335=25 336=30 340=29 341=16 342=26 343=30 345=10 346=26 359=29 360=8 361=26 362=30 365=20 366=2 367=3 368=2 369=24 370=30 398=20 399=26 414=8 415=25 419=25 420=4

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